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still the same question
so after 2 years playing with pa800, I still don't understand why when I select a style from a set file and import it to the new set file and also import the exact drum and percussion sounds related to that style one by one, and then in the record mode assign these to the style, still it makes a different sound at the end and sometimes with missing samples. on the other hand, if i download the whole set file then every thing is pefectly fine...i guess the pcm file doesn't import with the style when we do selective...i hope someone can explain to me...
Never happened to me.. And I do this almost every day now... Import Styles form different .Sets
Unless there are USER sounds assigned in the Variations, I write them down in a spreadsheet for each Var1-4, Fill1-2-Break, Intro etc....
Then ReAssign them in the Record mode and it all plays back the same! Just make sure all User Sounds are assigned correctly, not just Custom DrumKits.
Although I must admit, only once I loaded a DrumKit and only 1 key had a wrong sample assigned to it! But fixed that in the Sound Edit mode.
Unless there are USER sounds assigned in the Variations, I write them down in a spreadsheet for each Var1-4, Fill1-2-Break, Intro etc....
Then ReAssign them in the Record mode and it all plays back the same! Just make sure all User Sounds are assigned correctly, not just Custom DrumKits.
Although I must admit, only once I loaded a DrumKit and only 1 key had a wrong sample assigned to it! But fixed that in the Sound Edit mode.
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Rob Sherratt
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motor30,
Just like some1uk03 there is some editing you have to do if Styles make use of User sounds and User drumkits.
The reason it works if you load the complete .SET file in one go, is that the location of the User sounds and User drumkits will be the same as the original designer, and the links to those User sounds and User drumkits from the Styles will be valid.
If you load the Styles first and then load User sounds and User drumkits separately into a different location than was originally assigned, then the links from Styles will point to the wrong place, and you will have to edit the Styles and correct the links.
It would be nice if the Korg OS referenced Sounds and Drumkits by name and then the name was mapped to the physical location. e.g like logical to physical address translation in the Windows memory mapper. But instead Korg use physical address linkages between styles and sounds and so it makes life difficult for everyone trying to share their work.
Best regards,
Rob
Just like some1uk03 there is some editing you have to do if Styles make use of User sounds and User drumkits.
The reason it works if you load the complete .SET file in one go, is that the location of the User sounds and User drumkits will be the same as the original designer, and the links to those User sounds and User drumkits from the Styles will be valid.
If you load the Styles first and then load User sounds and User drumkits separately into a different location than was originally assigned, then the links from Styles will point to the wrong place, and you will have to edit the Styles and correct the links.
It would be nice if the Korg OS referenced Sounds and Drumkits by name and then the name was mapped to the physical location. e.g like logical to physical address translation in the Windows memory mapper. But instead Korg use physical address linkages between styles and sounds and so it makes life difficult for everyone trying to share their work.
Best regards,
Rob
Rob: I think we discussed this before...yes, I am doing all of these things and assign the drums and percus sounds to the style in recorde mode and very well aware of any tiny mistakes... i even reset my keyboard and start selective downloading the styles without any change in location, still the same result. there is two possibility that i am thinking:Rob Sherratt wrote:motor30,
Just like some1uk03 there is some editing you have to do if Styles make use of User sounds and User drumkits.
The reason it works if you load the complete .SET file in one go, is that the location of the User sounds and User drumkits will be the same as the original designer, and the links to those User sounds and User drumkits from the Styles will be valid.
If you load the Styles first and then load User sounds and User drumkits separately into a different location than was originally assigned, then the links from Styles will point to the wrong place, and you will have to edit the Styles and correct the links.
It would be nice if the Korg OS referenced Sounds and Drumkits by name and then the name was mapped to the physical location. e.g like logical to physical address translation in the Windows memory mapper. But instead Korg use physical address linkages between styles and sounds and so it makes life difficult for everyone trying to share their work.
Best regards,
Rob
first, this happens almost always, when I am using the pa- converter program that change the set files of pa80 to pa800. it supposed to work...and in fact it works when i download all converted set file at once...may be the converter program has not been adjusted for new OS version in selective slection which is unlikely...
second it is possible that the original (receptive) set file is taking all of the memories in terms of samples but not the free slots... so I don't have enough memory left for some special samples...although i don't get any warning that the memory is full ..so may be some pcm sample files can not be imported at the same time due to lack of memory...but when i download all at once all of the previous set files will be replaced and so there won't be any memory probem...so i am going to reset my keyboard and start downloading some styles see if this is the issue...
thanks for responses...regards
ok...i reset to factory level and delete all samples and sounds, styles. and then download the selected style from the set file, and also related drum and percussion... still the same!
i noticed in the samples info all samples are still remained zero. so if there is sample related to the drum it should be imported when i import the drums or sounds (right?). but it doesn't show any samples...
also in this style a couple of keys had recorded sound . none of them can be played and when i put the drum as the upper 1 sound and check the keys, some of the drum sounds including the recorded sound are missing...so the drum can not be imported completely. again when i download the whole set at once everything is correct...i am confused as always...someone really need to figure this out!
i noticed in the samples info all samples are still remained zero. so if there is sample related to the drum it should be imported when i import the drums or sounds (right?). but it doesn't show any samples...
also in this style a couple of keys had recorded sound . none of them can be played and when i put the drum as the upper 1 sound and check the keys, some of the drum sounds including the recorded sound are missing...so the drum can not be imported completely. again when i download the whole set at once everything is correct...i am confused as always...someone really need to figure this out!
I did some search and found at least another person with the same problem. now I can say that it is more likely due to PA converter program. so if you convert pa 80 data files which are usually 11 back up files to a set file for pa800 by using this program from korg (so called pa-converter), the set file only works when all set at once download together but when you want to select some styles and combine to other set file the samples won't go...it may be related to latest os version in which came much later than this program...I hope the korg pay attention to this and try to upgrade this pa-converter software pretty soon!...thanks
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LESSISMORE
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hi motor30
please read Robs post exactly.
The problem is every time the same. I loaded new samples with his specials PCGs. They did´nt work at once.
The same is with your drumkits.
Befor you go to style-record-mode, you have to edit your new (loaded) drumkits. Select each sound/sample in the new kit separately. Change one parameter und set it back to original. So that it was a nochange.
Now you must save the kit to the location you want.
And after this, you can go to style-record-mode to make your editing.
With this action you may fix the sounds/pcgs/drumkits.
The PA-OS has a s..t bug during loading new samples. they may land on the wrong slots and they are not totally fixed to kits and pcgs .
Sometimes its enough to select the new drumkit in editmode and store it again, without changing something.
please read Robs post exactly.
The problem is every time the same. I loaded new samples with his specials PCGs. They did´nt work at once.
The same is with your drumkits.
Befor you go to style-record-mode, you have to edit your new (loaded) drumkits. Select each sound/sample in the new kit separately. Change one parameter und set it back to original. So that it was a nochange.
Now you must save the kit to the location you want.
And after this, you can go to style-record-mode to make your editing.
With this action you may fix the sounds/pcgs/drumkits.
The PA-OS has a s..t bug during loading new samples. they may land on the wrong slots and they are not totally fixed to kits and pcgs .
Sometimes its enough to select the new drumkit in editmode and store it again, without changing something.
