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What a new Radias could be like (?)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:23 pm    Post subject: What a new Radias could be like (?) Reply with quote

Hi there,
I just came up with some ideas for a new generation Radias. The photoshop job is crappy & blurry but I think you get my point though.
The main idea is to get a somewhat streamlined and modernized interface with a huge touch-sensitive colour display and a top row of encoders that change their function according to the menus. Also, please note the M3 styled buttons (for quick preset changes etc.), the numeric keys, and the three lighted mod-wheels with some additional function switches on the keyboard unit.
In general, this would be an expanded Radias with (optional) DAW integration / multichannel audio streaming via USB (3.0?) or Firewire.
I am in no way related to Korg and just made this for fun. Maybe it gets a little discussion going coz I think It's time for a new Radias.
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danielb
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought the Radias because it is covered in knobs.

Your design looks like a custom touchscreen for hosting VSTis.

D.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

danielb wrote:
I bought the Radias because it is covered in knobs.


Same here--I wanted a retro look. No big screen on a VA, thank you.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it could be a MOD7 spinoff!

I'm perfectly happy with the radias as it is. The only things I could ask for is open sampling or at least a piano sample, more virtual patches and the ability to set FX controls as (mono only) modseq destinations, and a more flexible effects routing system like korg's workstations.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

danielb wrote:
I bought the Radias because it is covered in knobs. D.


Again, same here. The more knobs (or sliders) the better! Personally, I like my synths to be covered in them, the more the merrier as it saves diving though menus and submenus on an LCD screen. Can't stand that if they goes too deep.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In 5 years, when everything is touch-screen-this, touch-screen-that, you're gonna wish you had an old-fashioned synth with a big array of knobs/faders/etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:51 am    Post subject: Re: What a new Radias could be like (?) Reply with quote

That actually looks really awesome.
In fact, they should make that, but rather than to replace the radias, it would be a complementing piece of equipment, sort of like an addon. It could be anything from a sampler to a synth similar to the kaossilators.

I envy your photoshop skills. That's wicked.

Doesn't anyone else think that would look wicked awesome right next to a radias in its knobby glory?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, no, no - no touchscreens please Smile just supply a vga/dvi/hdmi out for a larger screen for more convenient editing and usb port for mouse or lemur type touchscreen controller or wacom tablet if one wants touch option and please keep all knobs and buttons Smile Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like one about the size of the m3, with 2*32 triggers and a bunch more knobs.

A touch screen would be nice, again the size of the one on the M3.
This could be great to draw modulation sequences with the fingers (one of my favourite feature on the vsynth-gt).
Plus it could also work as an x/y pad, exactly like the m3.

Also, I would prefer a patch system like on the virus (thought only 4 "tracks" is ok). You would store a combi like now (including all timbres, not a pointer like on the m3) but you could also load and save individual patches/timbres. with an advanced search option.
Also if a drumtrack or any arp or seq is running, loading a different patch on a slot shouldn't stop them all.
And more drum editing in realtime, without entering a drum mode.

Anyway, among my few synths, the radias is globally my favourite, thanks to all these knobs and buttons. And although a better display wouldn't hurt, I still want all these knobs, and even more Smile.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like all those buttons and knobs on a synth myself but what I don't like on the Radias is that the functions are partially layered and that many knobs are in a somewhat strange position for my taste. You must really watch out that you don't get the wrong knob if you're in a hurry. Also, for many things you need the display anyways.
For live tweaking, I don't need 30 or 40 knobs, I just want the filter parameters and the adsr and the sequencer controls...so say 8 or 10 controls. More would be less to me coz it distracts. This is just my understanding of the Radias as a performance synth, but of course I understand your objections. Thanx for commenting.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A wrote:
[..]what I don't like on the Radias is that the functions are partially layered


Exactly, we need more knobs and buttons Wink

Ok it takes some time until you know what each one does without having to read the labels, but then it's heaven. To make it easier you can put some color on these knobs (fluo paint or whatever).

I also really like the fact that we can tweak any param using a single hand, IMO the biggest flaw on the virus ti and other synths.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would like something like the Indigo or the K-station... small, tons of knobs and slider, very few menu and 3 oscillators

the great think korg could do imo would be to take R3, put more knobs and also transfer same technology from workstation as drum track, complex arp pattern, sequencer with midi file, sample option...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kimu wrote:
i would like something like the Indigo or the K-station... small, tons of knobs and slider, very few menu and 3 oscillators

the great think korg could do imo would be to take R3, put more knobs and also transfer same technology from workstation as drum track, complex arp pattern, sequencer with midi file, sample option...

oh yes, if korg would ever be able to produce radias mk2 Rolling Eyes than electribe style pattern sequencer with midi file import from usbflash and gate arp and/or polyphonic TR style arp would be the first things I would like to see in it Smile in other words just cleverly merge emx and radias and add some workflow improvement stuff (usb flash utilization for presets and midis and input device (mose/wacom), and maybe vga or hdmi out for editing on larger screen) and such device would be instantly on the very top of my purchase list Wink
In general I don't think there is much you can improve sound generation wise these days - all is about workflow now - how you implement these things and how convenient is to work with them.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gjvti wrote:

In general I don't think there is much you can improve sound generation wise these days - all is about workflow now - how you implement these things and how convenient is to work with them.


well said, i think this is a good point...

workstation are getting more and more complex while in analog and Va area manufactor seems to seek again for simplicity (think of moog, DSI, clavia...)

the real next step in synth area imo is from one side HW and SW convergence/integration and the as you said the workflow... machine need to be easy to use, inspiring, allow you to lay down ideas, song, pattern quick and well
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I watch starwars on it?
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