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I've had my PA800 for almost two years, and may be I need a change.
Me be I will buy a new KB. My first PA800 was a mess, had to start with bloodpresure pills after that one :wink: My second one, and OS1.60 has been pretty stable, no freezes during live gigs :D , but have had some at home. If it was'nt for this forum and all the helpfull people, I know for sure I would'nt be a Korg player. Korg distributor customer suppport is like :evil: :evil: . Before I do any testing on any other KB I will try out the new OS. Korg promised a whole new Keyboard :wink: Best solution :) The PA2X would also be great, I love the keybed. Before Korg do something to fix all those problems, I will not buy that one, If I got one of those bad ones, I could'nt handle it. The T3 sounds good, and the Ketron Audya, if it ever shows up. What about the ketron technology, is it getting old before it's release. Heard about this in 2006, to be released in early 2007, than late 2007, early 2008, late 2008, what I hear now is 2009, or 2010. It must be good, really high priced. Hope it will be released soon. I will probably make my decission within new year.
Maybe I already have the best, and just keep it going.Or :?: :?:
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The Audya has been in discussions for as long as i could remember. The technology does seem old unless they keep replacing it every year.
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No, the technology is not old, its at least 4-5 years ahead of the known
Brands like the one we belong here too. Intel Core Duo and 4GB RAM is
not an old technology nor being able to have styles completey made with
Audio Loops, nothing old in it, just ahead of time.
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Nedim, any news about release date?
I will have a little more time off in jan.09, so I will hopefully spend some time in the music store, have to travel a few hours to get to the big store.I love my PA800, but I always need to try out the new ones :)Expensive, my wife are not happy about that :lol: Who knows, may be OS2 will make me not wanna do anything :wink:
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As for your wife i dont know Skude, send her to where mine is, so they can
comfort each other, i dont have that problem NO MORE.
Audya, i am waiting for it to arrive any day as for release date i dont know
anything but pretty sure before New Year. And if you are thinking about it
then i might actually have to call our wife and tell her to get ready...
i will give her directions to find MY wife...EX...
And if you are like me i dont think OS 2.0 will satisfy you and i dont think
that would be comparable to Audya, its a technology ahead of this.
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I just reread your top post now, no, the technology is not OLD, its been
updated and for now its way ahead of everything else, here is something:

1. Intel Core Duo.
2. 1GB RAM expandable to 4GB RAM.
3. Being able to play Audio Loops in Style in Time.
4.
2 Drum tracks (Drum 1= Midi, Drum 2 = Audio).
1 Bass track (Audio/Midi depending on style).
4 Arranger Chord parts (Midi).
1 Arranger Chord part (Audio/Live).
2 Chord parts - instant/lower (midi).

STYLES WITH AUDIO LOOPS.
* Use all tracks (especially the AUDIO tracks).
* Recorded as 3 styles (e.g Ballad Slow (0-30%), Ballad Med (30-60%),
Ballad Fast (60-100%) [where % marks tempo] so there are actually 3 'styles'
per style depending on tempo selected! This eliminates Audio disruption when
tempo is stretched beyond limit of the 'styles'.
* User can create their own AUDIO styles, but yes, extra work is needed ONLY
on audio tracks if user decides to use audio.
* Extensive Editing available on non audio tracks.
* Limited editing available on Audio tracks (as you can expect).

STYLES WITHOUT AUDIO LOOPS
* Use all NON AUDIO tracks (Drum1, Bass, Chord 1-4).
* Recorded as 1 style (e.g Salsa) with midi tempo variation (as present).
* You can create all parts from scratch.
* Permits you to load previous Ketron styles (that don't use Audio loops).
* Permits you to edit ALL tracks extensively.

Some of it was quoted by my coleague A.J. at SynthZone.
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It's probably in $6000 or more range. And also it's probably real heavy. If you're a giging musician, it won't be ideal for that scenario, unless it's a corporate sponsored...
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For now it is in the 4-5000$ range and it wont be really heavy.
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Nedim, thanks for all info. I know for sure I have to look into this. (I mean the KB, not where you send your wife :lol: ) Pricerange here around $7000. A few gigs to pay for that one. :wink: The PA800 has done a great job for me so far,playing live using styles. Just started up my old O1W again, has been sitting in the flightcase for many years, since I got my PA80. I should not have done that, love the sounds and the keys :D can't carry two pieces. :cry:
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Well, i'd say it depends on how you handle your gigs. If you do local gigs for the most part, and get paid good enough, then you could go for a $5000 or more keyboard, but if the pay is not that great, or you have to actually travel for gigs, i wouldn't put that thing in a flight case. If none of the above is applicable, I still wouldn't recommand it for a home studio, unless you really have so much money you don't know what to do with it! Then, have at it..
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skude wrote:can't carry two pieces. :cry:
Yes you can, what do you have a Wife for?
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Post by macboy »

Nedim did you upgrade to Wife 1.0 ?

:)


Upgrading to Wife 1.0
Last year a friend of mine upgraded from GirlFriend 6.0 to Wife 1.0 and found that it's a memory hog leaving very little system resources available for other applications. He is now noticing that Wife 1.0 is also spawning Child Processes which are further consuming valuable resources. No mention of this particular phenomena was included in the product brochure or the documentation, though other users have informed him that this is to be expected due to the nature of the application.

Not only that, Wife 1.0 installs itself such that it is always launched at system initialization, where it can monitor all other system activity. He's finding that some applications such as PokerNight 10.3, BeerBash 2.5, and PubNight 7.0 are no longer able to run in the system at all, crashing the system when selected (even though they always worked fine before). During installation, Wife 1.0 provides no option as to the installation of undesired Plug-Ins such as MotherInLaw 55.8 and BrotherInLaw Beta release. Also, system performance seems to diminish with each passing day.

Some features he'd like to see in the upcoming wife 2.0.

a "Don't remind me again" button
a Minimize button
An install shield feature that allows Wife 2.0 be installed with the option to uninstall at any time without the loss of cache and other system resources
An option to run the network driver in promiscuous mode which would allow the system's hardware probe feature to be much more useful.
I myself decided to avoid the headaches associated with Wife 1.0 by sticking with Girlfriend 7.0. Even here, however, I found many problems. Apparently you cannot install Girlfriend 7.0 on top of Girlfriend 6.0. You must uninstall Girlfriend 6.0 first. Other users say this is a long standing bug that I should have known about. Apparently the versions of Girlfriend have conficts over shared use of the I/O port. You think they would have fixed such a stupid bug by now. To make matters worse, The uninstall program for Girlfriend 6.0 doesn't work very well leaving undesirable traces of the application in the system. Another thing -- all versions of Girlfriend continually popup little annoying messages about the advantages of upgrading to Wife 1.0.

Bug Warning
Wife 1.0 has an undocumented bug. If you try to install Mistress 1.1 before uninstalling Wife 1.0, Wife 1.0 will delete MSMoney files before doing the uninstall itself. Then Mistress 1.1 will refuse to install, claiming insufficient resources.

Bug work-arounds: To avoid this bug, try installing Mistress 1.1 on a different system and never run any file transfer applications such as Laplink 6.0. Also, beware of similar shareware applications that have been known to carry viruses that may affect Wife 1.0. Another solution would be to run Mistress 1.1 via a UseNet provider under an anonymous name. Here again, beware of the viruses which can accidently be downloaded from the UseNet.

Tech Support Suggestions
These are very common problem men complain about, but is mostly due to a primary misconception. Many people upgrade from Girlfriend 6.0 to Wife 1.0 with the idea that Wife 1.0 is merely a Utilities & Entertainment program. Wife 1.0 is indeed an operating system and designed by its creator to run everything.

It is unlikely you would be able to purge Wife 1.0 and still convert back to Girlfriend 6.0. Hidden operating files within your system would cause Girlfriend 6.0 to emulate Wife 1.0 so nothing is gained. It is impossible to uninstall, delete, or purge the program files from the system once installed. You cannot go back to Girlfriend 6.0 because Wife 1.0 is not designed to do this.

Some have tried to install Girlfriend 7.0 or Wife 2.0 but end up with more problems than the original system. Look in your manual under "Warnings - Alimony/Child support". I recommend you keep Wife 1.0 and deal with the situation.

I suggest installing background application program C:\YES DEAR to alleviate software augmentation. Having installed Wife 1.0 myself, I might also suggest you read the entire section regarding General Partnership Faults (GPFs). You must assume all responsibility for faults and problems that might occur, regardless of their cause. The best course of action will be to enter the command C:\APOLOGIZE. In any case avoid excessive use of C:\YES DEAR because ultimately you may have to give the APOLOGIZE command before the operating system will return to normal. The system will run smoothly as long as you take the blame for all the GPFs.

Wife 1.0 is a great program, but very high-maintenance. Consider buying additional software to improve the performance of Wife 1.0. I recommend Flowers 3.1 and Diamonds 2K. Do not, under any circumstances, install Secretary with Short Skirt 3.3. This is not a supported application for Wife 1.0 and is likely to cause irreversible damage to the operating system.

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Post by Lee »

macboy,
Hilarious, and a lot of fun,
Well written...

Makes me want to get out of Information Sytems entirely.

Now...what to do with wife 3.0???

OK, Lady's your turn to make fun??
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Post by macboy »

I did not write it though :)
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macboy
That's ok, I still got a good laugh out of it!
Thanks,
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