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[Terry Daun]

I recently got this comment on some tunes I recorded. I used a Triton Le and M3. You can check the tunes out at www.sonicbids.com/terrydaun
I always thought that Korg kicked butt in terms of realism. Am I still right?


RE:New instrumentals for TV & Film

Hi Terry,

I think they sound pretty good. The playing is excellent. I write for TV as well, in a very different style, but it's still meant for media.

I just have one comment. In my experience, people will shy away from music that is meant to sound like real instruments, but sounds like sampled instruments or hybrids...unless the samples are VERY, very good. Now this is just my opinion, but the parts in these songs that are emulations of real instruments don't sound very realistic. They're well played, it's just that they sound, sorry, fake. I'm guessing that your only using the Korgs. I think that if you went with some of the higher quality samplers (Kontakt and Gigastudio, for example) and invested in some of the sample products out there, it would be a dramatic improvement. I'm trying to do that little by little. It's expensive, but it's paid off very well so far.
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[lcmorley]

I would say that the M3 is very good at what it does, and that is to produce good quality samples. I suppose that it what the crunch word is "Samples".

If you want the real thing, then get the real thing, get an orchestra into a studio and do the real thing!

If you want samples, then use the M3!
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Yamaha PSR-31, Technics KN1000, Technics KN5000, Technics KN7000, Korg PA-80, Korg Triton Classic, Microkorg, Korg Triton Studio, Alesis Ion, Korg Legacy Collection, Korg Triton Extreme, Roland Juno D, Access Virus TI 2, Korg M3, Korg Oasys, Roland TR-8, Korg Kronos 2 88 Platinum.

[bkboy]

sorry, i know some korg fanbois may not like to hear this...but m3 acoustic samples are indeed a bit fake. as i have said unwaveringly, m3 is great for strings/organs and even piano now, but for guitars, sax, etc, i think the m3 samples are very cheesy.

being the devil's advocate - for realistic sounds, yamaha motif xs is clearly the way to go if you don't want to spend $$$$$ for giga libraries and a good computer system that can actually meet its demands.

m3 is great for electronic music, more cleaner and defined than the motif xs.

[Lorenzo]

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[Lorenzo]

well if you hear a vibrato effects out of time in any commercial CD or track... the XS is a good workstation as the m3 and kurzweil, roland too (but I don't like them ), a workstation is what the name sudgest so you can use external samples and so on, but the fact that the motif is in many studio doesn't mean that they use its acoustic instruments...
regards, Lorenzo
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[muziksculp]

For serious TV or Film soundtrack Orchestral emulations, your best option would be the larger software based sample libraries, such as VSL, and EWQLSO, and many others on offer on today's sample marketplace.

As far as the demos for TV or Film using the M3, and Triton LE, well.. I have to say they do sound on the fake side, so, I would say that if you are hoping to emulate a real orchestra, they just won't cut it. They were just not designed for the job. Simple as that.

The Yamaha Motif XS has IMHO a much better acoustic set of instruments than the Korgs do. (I have the Motif XS7, Motif ES7, and Korg M3), and the Motif XS7 has the best orchestral/acoustic sounds as far as Keyboards go. But still not good enough for serious Orchestral emulations.

But, then again, the Motif XS7 is no match for the larger orchestral sample libraries, software based orch. sample libraries offer a much higher level or quality and realism. IMHO, not much of a contest here.

Having said so, I would not generalize things, there are still quite a bit of TV/Film projects that can benefit from synthetic orchestrations as long as they are NOT trying to sound like real orchestral instruments, but rather use synthetic sounds in a more innovative, and progrssive way, to add more emotional, or expressive value to the movie. This is where creative musical ideas, and concepts can make working with an M3, or XS, or Triton lots of fun) ! and Yes, if you use it in this fashion, Korgs, Yamahas, and Rolands.. all can create some wonderful music for Film/Soundtrack... but not pure orchestral emulations.

By the way, sometimes adding a real acoustic performance to a sampled based orchestration, can dramatically increase the realism factor. So, if you play any acoustic instruments, don't ignore the fact, that recording one or two, additional audio tracks of a real performer makes a huge impact on realism.

Have Fun !

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