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khol Junior Member
Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 90 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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I've been reading this thread now, and i have a few question for you guys.
How's the key-quality? What i wonder is if the key-playing-feeling is "spongey" if the rack quality is poor?
What about thoose halfempty soundbanks? What's that all about?
Would you say that the overall M3-quality is so poor that i shouldnt buy one?
Im just about to order one but will hold my order... |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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khol wrote: | I've been reading this thread now, and i have a few question for you guys.
How's the key-quality? What i wonder is if the key-playing-feeling is "spongey" if the rack quality is poor?
Would you say that the overall M3-quality is so poor that i shouldnt buy one?
And what about thoose halfempty soundbanks? What's that all about?
Im just about to order one but will hold my order. |
the rack quality os excellent. I have mine since last May
empty sound backs allows room for growth and my ouwn custom sounds _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
Achieve your musical dreams
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drama1 Platinum Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 663
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Thought I'd chime in on this thread. I have used the Triton Pro since it was first released and it has never failed me with the exception of a few broken keys. I have played on stages that were so hot in the summertime that the top of the Triton was actually hot to the touch. I have also played on stages that we so cold I had to wear gloves with the fingers cut out. I have the M3-73 and am definitely concerned about the build quality and road worthyness of this new board. I guess only time will tell. In my opinion it certainly sounds better than the Triton, but is REALLY lacking in usable programs and combis for live performance. Anyone know if Korg does quality testing like they do on cars, computers and such for road worthyness? To be honest, while I'm starting to really like the sound of the M3, I'm not realy comfortable using it live because of the board occasionally freezing up and not so careful roadies. Any thoughts? |
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Synthoid Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2003 Posts: 3300 Location: PA, USA
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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khol wrote: | How's the key-quality? What i wonder is if the key-playing-feeling is "spongey" if the rack quality is poor? |
The M3 has a better keybed than the original Triton IMO. I've gigged with it twice now and like the feel.
khol wrote: | What about thoose halfempty soundbanks? What's that all about? |
Plenty of space for your own sounds. This is what the original Triton was lacking.
khol wrote: | Would you say that the overall M3-quality is so poor that i shouldnt buy one? |
Not poor, but different. Have you played one yet?
khol wrote: | Im just about to order one but will hold my order... |
I waited as well, but got such a great deal, I couldn't resist.
But if you're unsure, wait and see what happens with all of us M3 owners on the forum.
_________________ M3, Triton Classic, Radias, Motif XS, Alesis Ion |
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khol Junior Member
Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 90 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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drama1 wrote: | I'm not realy comfortable using it live because of the board occasionally freezing up and not so careful roadies |
In what way is the board freezing up? |
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khol Junior Member
Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 90 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Synthoid wrote: | Plenty of space for your own sounds. This is what the original Triton was lacking.
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So that was actually a good thing then?
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Not poor, but different. Have you played one yet?
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No, unfortanently there is no store here with a demo-m3 inhouse. So i have to rely on sound-demos that i downloaded, videos and what you guys have to say about it.
As far as the sound-demos, videos on youtube and karmalab is telling me, it sure sounds like a mad machine. I really like the sound. Specially with the EXB-RADIAS installed.
But, on the other hand... if the hardware sucks i dont want it.
Whats the vote on this thread? Buy or not to buy? |
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drama1 Platinum Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 663
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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khol wrote: | drama1 wrote: | I'm not realy comfortable using it live because of the board occasionally freezing up and not so careful roadies |
In what way is the board freezing up? |
Once when simply starting up. The red line went half way and just stopped. I had to restart. And another time when midi'd to an 88 keyboard when changing patches. Again had to restart the M3. |
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Trinity2112 Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2002 Posts: 579 Location: Delaware, USA
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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khol wrote: | Whats the vote on this thread? Buy or not to buy? |
I had a lot of doubts about the M3 when it was released. Even more doubts after I purchased one. But after discovering the M3's greatest asset of all which, in my opinion, is it's massive underlying potential, I knew I had made the right decision. I haven't even scratched the surface. And with so much more on the horizon in the way OS updates, the PCM series, user tips & tricks and 3rd party contributions, digging deeper is going to be a very satisfying experience for years to come.
My vote: BUY _________________ Current Korg Lineup: Kronos 61, Oasys 76 · M3-61/RADIAS · Trinity Plus/HDR · 01/WFD · 01R/W · X3R · M3R · Wavestation EX · Wavestation SR · Triton Rack/MOSS · Z1EX · TR-Rack · Karma · D3200 · iM1 · iWavestation · iMono/Poly
Other Synths: Berhinger Deepmind 12 · iProphet · Moog Model D
Dearly departed: X3 |
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klarnet basowy Senior Member
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 279 Location: Italy
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Trinity2112 wrote: |
I had a lot of doubts about the M3 when it was released. Even more doubts after I purchased one. But after discovering the M3's greatest asset of all which, in my opinion, is it's massive underlying potential, I knew I had made the right decision. |
Yup, once you've understood how to "dominate" the M3, it's wodnerful to notice how powerful is the sound engine in getting what you want from it.
Hope the build quality of the buttons will not show up on mine.. _________________ Kurzweil PC361
... and no Korg keybs now, we'll se in the future...
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Voltan Senior Member
Joined: 02 Nov 2007 Posts: 370 Location: Poland
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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khol wrote: | But, on the other hand... if the hardware sucks i dont want it.
Whats the vote on this thread? Buy or not to buy? |
My 73 seems very solid but I only used it at home now (working on a new album - it'll take some time before we go live again )
The keybed is great, much better than the tritons. Sounds better too.
If I could exchange it for any other workstation in it's price range (including Motif XS) - I wouldn't.
Go buy one! |
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Synthoid Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2003 Posts: 3300 Location: PA, USA
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Trinity2112 wrote: | with so much more on the horizon in the way OS updates, the PCM series, user tips & tricks and 3rd party contributions, digging deeper is going to be a very satisfying experience for years to come.
My vote: BUY |
Yup......it's a different animal, but worth taming.
And yes, khol--having lots of USER sound banks is working well; I can create individual groups of programs & combis for sets, different bands, or "just for fun." _________________ M3, Triton Classic, Radias, Motif XS, Alesis Ion |
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Davidb Platinum Member
Joined: 21 Oct 2002 Posts: 1592
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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bkboy wrote: | seems like spanish people play with their m3s after touching olive oil! |
It this a joke?
wait.... its a joke!!!!
Wow dude, very funny,you are awesome!
know some more?
_________________ Regards.
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MartinHines Platinum Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3037 Location: Topeka, KS (USA)
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:23 am Post subject: |
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khol wrote: | What about thoose halfempty soundbanks? What's that all about? |
Creation of factory sounds (programs and combis) takes alot of time and money. Korg will release additional sounds for the M3 in the future.
Just FYI, when the Triton Classic first came out, its C and D banks were empty (both Program and Combis). Later Korg added new factory sounds to fill those banks.
Also, the forthcoming EXB-USB-PCM sounds will require both Program and Combi banks, similar to how the Triton series EXB-PCM boards required empty Program and Combi banks. |
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