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Daz Retired
Joined: 01 Jan 2002 Posts: 10829
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting that you say that, because I think it would lose it's edge if the vocal was more 'singy'. The more staccato nature of the semi-spoken vocal fits perfectly with the same staccato'esque feel of the music. More importantly it is the 2loose sound, it's integral to that edgy sound. I've gotten so used to hearing 2loose songs now, that it would just seem too weird and out of place if he went all cutesy on us
It must making writing lyrics even harder singing this way, because the words come out so clearly that you can't get away with some vocal melodic acrobatics to hide behind.
Keep it coming "as is" I say ... it's a such a great combination of trashy and intelligent !
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JonSolo Platinum Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2005 Posts: 969 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Just gave this a whirl again. George you really capture a lot of energy and fun in your music. Yet there is a serious edge that underlies all of your songs. While there is technicality to your tracks, they remain very warm and I don't mean fuzzy feel good.
The breakdown to the solo is absolutely awesome! I mean it comes out of nowhere and morphs as the song continues. Yet you never lose the general continuity.
And you somehow always capture the feel in your music that exists in your lyric. Great job again.
Jon _________________ Jon Solo
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georgeinar Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Jun 2002 Posts: 3425 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Jonsolo, that was an unexpected comment in a way, because I went into this piece wondering if I could sell the concept of shouting ' we are the cyberpunks' as it just seemed somewhat silly and hard to believe in both vocally and emotionally and yet I liked the concept, I just thought it somewhat silly. Yet I threw myself into it, and so produced some lyrics for the verses that took silly and made it much more intense than I had first thought it would be. Also, the 'we are the cyberpunk' part I redid over and over with the vocoder (rymes here) to make sure it had enough zing that it didn't feel thin and lacking authority. So in the end it becomes better than what I expected. And this one I did quite quickly as far as the music goes and the lyriics weren't that hard. It was just having trouble trying to sell the conept to myself.
Daz: for your comments on arrangement: I am actually trying to deconstruct my typical arrangement schematic, as I always do a couple verses then a chorus then a bridge then another chorus and fade, or so it would seem. I know that's fairly standard for pop and rock but I'm working on a piece now that deconstructs that and does like 2 verses then an instrumental portion which is joined by a few vocal lines which then carry into a persuccisive break (it's sort of dance music this one) then the bridge which is vocal the first half and instrument only the second half, then for the chorus, i come in with an instrumental version of the chorus thinned out at first, a short 8 bars that points back to the verse section then a full out repeating chorus with words that haven't even been used yet and fades on that. It's a hard sell and I'm having trouble. It may be too unpredictable but I'll see if i can pull this off.
Pecca: If I had a singing voice, then singing might be an option. But I was not gifted there. I do have melodyne which I'll pull out on occasion, but only rarely as it's not only pitch that I lack in the vocal, it's wind and control. So I do these edgier spoken things. _________________ George Nelson is 2loose
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http://www.soundclick.com/2loose or follow my tweets = 2loose_buzzgoth (twitter name)
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Dee Platinum Member
Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 532 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Hi George
Once again a really well-produced song. To me each song you post sounds better than the one before. This one is so clear and your spoken voice is just right for this type of song.
I don't find the idea of shouting (or should I say...er...singing) "we are the cyber-punks" silly at all. It's a great concept and I must say I did puzzle over your lyrics quite a bit. Not sure I understood them completely! But there are many issues worth thinking about when it comes to the web.....
We make our final stand
Against your moral virus
And your metallic hand
....very good!...
And....I see you told ellll (John) that you're actually SINGING (gulp) on your June song, so without further ado, I'm going to cheat about listening to everyone's May songs first, and I'm going to rush off right now to go and listen to it.....
Bye......
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Lorenzo Platinum Member
Joined: 07 Sep 2002 Posts: 3681 Location: Italy
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: |
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every month passing by your songs has some real improvements! _________________ http://www.synthaddicted.com |
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georgeinar Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Jun 2002 Posts: 3425 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Dee and Lorenzo, I do appreciate the kind words and to all of you who take the time to listen. I still doubt myself many times when composing that my next piece is going to fall flat and it really helps to know people enjoy listening. _________________ George Nelson is 2loose
http://www.cdbaby.com/artist/2loose for my cds
http://www.soundclick.com/2loose or follow my tweets = 2loose_buzzgoth (twitter name)
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