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[RichF]

Hi everybody,

We've posted a few teaser clips for the upcoming WAVEDRUM Dynamic Percussion Synthesizer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNMbQvkds4E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl9n1MkBmJc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glsjmW9dyW0

Enjoy!
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Richard Formidoni
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Korg USA, Inc.

[Sharp]

Seriously cool stuff there.
Everyone at KORG must be so happy with themselves after all the recent releases.

Regards
Sharp.

[Kontrol49]

This design kind of reminds me of some futuristic Toilet seat???

looks like a whole load of fun,better than I expected it to be.

[Jan1]

Truly a wonderful responsive instrument offering natural control over the sounds.

[John Hendry]

Korg listens. Korg rocks. Korg brought back the Wave Drum. I’m speechless. It sounds unbelievable. I was going to announce that the Graviton has been located giving the atom 4 parts….if true one of the biggest discoveries in physics..…but I know when an event is over shadowed;-). BTW this is yet another thing we have to thank Dave Smith for. Way to go Korg…but I was starting to wonder with used ones fetching $3,000. Korg is on a roll.

“You can’t always get what you want” but with Korg you always get what you need. You just have to wait. That proves time is not relative so don’t get me started. The Graviton post can wait till I’m done researching this impossibility. It might be just a glitch in the Higgs Field and I’m seeing things I want. Imagine a drum circle with 10 Korg Wave Drums in sync. And an AC power outlet in the middle of nowhere….. What’s next?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efCelx7qe_M&NR=1&feature=fvwp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SslCpQ26IY&feature=related

It’s getting better all the time.

John^^

PS Oil is dead. Too many people and ways to produce energy by accident let alone in understanding. I like the part where the wizards say THEY will rewrite the laws of physics. If they can’t even find the graviton after seeing it not knowing what it is, they can’t rewrite the laws of physics. It’s too late anyway. O=E=mc2 LOL (technically it's O=E=m+{a}c2 because you need to add the weak force's asymmetry value. Been working on this a lot: the asymmetry space gained per weak cycle is in balance by two well known commas observed in 3:2 tuning so it does not bend space, but it does add a slight distance/space requiring that be added to compensate and explain radiation, Nature's natural tempering we observe.

Therefore it seems EM> stretches space in the strong force past the 2:1 natural octave points. The geometry of the gravity wave being bent will answer this. Working on it….) The lack of weak force asymmetry value is what causes F=ma to be slightly off as well. F=m+{a}a fixes that error but I write it in space time adding the observer as force=weak pressure, mass equal space, and acceleration equal time: wp=SxT+{a}=S/T or wp=SxT(A}where (a} replaces the = sign between the weak force and the strong force in equations and adds the asy value and direction (new) within the strong force, so first equation showing it before the SF in time is not correct requiring the confidence to add a new math symbol to account for the correct role of the weak force and show that the added WF Asy time occurs in the strong force inertial frame, not in the weak force. It’s complicated till you understand it, then its very simple and nothing compared to where Pythagoras shows it takes us mathematically.

Here’s what I’m talking about: gray dots are the 2:1 ratio of the weak force, and blue dots are the 3:2 ratio of the strong force. Every 5th creates the observer’s c/g in the strong force noted in the DNA’s gene ensemble 12 instance locations. When you use time as your ruler, you need to remember it gets longer and this is observed when measuring a weak cycle of time in the strong force.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_tuning



“Politics are for the moment, an equation is forever.” Albert Einstein
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[PaulUmble]

I would just like to say I LOVE Korg products, and I have a few of them. I also love hand percussion. which makes the wave drum automatically awesome, but I cant seem to see any photo's showing midi ports or USB of any kind. If these are really absent, then I will NOT be spending my money on a wave drum, EVER. As much as it would be great for live events, it IS an electronic device. recording and sequencing NEED to be options. I will definitely be playing with one of these at the music store when it becomes available, but if midi or USB are not available, then neither is my money!

[John Hendry]

If MIDI could capture everything put into the Wave Drum so it could be played back and sound/feel the same I would certainly want it too, but only if it could do that and keep it feeling real. The original Wave Drum had some issues with its MIDI usefulness as I recall reading and to get it right would add a heck of a lot to the cost. I see the Wave Drum needing more real time control than MIDI offers. Like Dave Smith, probably the single most influential person to advance electronic music said, “Anything that can go 20 years while still in a 1.0 state is pretty amazing!” I forget when he said this, but it wasn’t yesterday. USB is not without issues as well.

This article from Midi Magazine by Robert Poor, the Director of Research and Development at Opcode Systems explains the problem with MIDI and why I suspect Korg left it out keeping the price down. http://www.notable.com/index.php?page=projects&display=99
Here’s the first paragraph that mentions the problem.

“It's About Time. We've all heard it said that being in the right place at the right time can make or break a career in music. Nowhere is this more important than in your musical performances. The difference between a great player and a good one can often be reduced to timing. Timing is what gives music that special funky flow that people want to groove to. The error might be as small as a few milliseconds, but those milliseconds determine whether people want to dance or even listen to your music. When music is rhythmically right, it just feels good”.

You can always sample the Wave Drum but I know what you mean about the advantages of MIDI. However with the current MIDI standard being what it is and the reality of time being what it is to get it to sound the same I would much rather wait till another system is developed that can handle the needs of a drum better. At the price point Korg placed the new Wave Drum I would not expect it to have MIDI (done right) if MIDI were used. If any product needed its own timing system for control the Wave Drum shows this need, but that gets into a new system of measurement and standards, what some call "getting religious” and has yet to be done by any manufacture . We don’t even have polyphonic after touch available anymore and Robert Poor’s article shows some possible reasons why outside of the cost.


John^^
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[PaulUmble]

These are some very good points. midi IS outdated and needs to be replaced sooner rather than later, but what about other ideas? firmware updates or sound/ROM updates, USB could be used for that. Some kind of VST/AU interface ( ie. The Access Virus ) for use in DAWs, USB could be used for that. If not midi, than Korg needs to create the new protocol and start using it themselves. These ideas can apply to ALL electronic instruments. it's not that I NEED midi, because I don't. I just think that if I have to record my percussion in real time, than I should just hook up a good mic, and record my REAL djembe, and my REAL tabla... you get the picture.