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Eat-Static Full Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2010 Posts: 159 Location: North Devon UK
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:40 pm Post subject: READ THE MANUAL ? |
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Hello Forum,
I've noticed many forum members getting annoyed with the reply "Read the Manual" to their questions.
Is this Fair ?
Surely the manual contains all the information and instruction to operation the equipment properly and to its full potential .
But what if they don't understand the instructions in the manual , then what ?
Is it that they've brought something which you have not researched or studied properly , and they're looking for a short-cut to learning to play it ?
Whats your view ?
Eat Static - Says " Try it , Refer to manual and try again " _________________ Korg R3 EMX1 KP3 miniKP KO1
Moog LP II CP251 MF-101
DSI EVOLVER MOPHO
ROLAND SP404SX JUNO-G |
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X-Trade Moderator
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 6494 Location: Leeds, UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:35 am Post subject: |
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I think telling someone to go read the manual in itself can be taken to be slightly offensive.
However, often people haven't even tried to read the manual. And it is a legitimate source of information. You don't even have to understand all of it, just take it in and some of it will stick even if you don't know what it means at the time.
If they still have a problem then asking about something specific they didn't understand is a good idea, rather than just asking for someone to spoonfeed the information to them.
Nothing comes without effort.
Bottom line is, always read the manual first. Its there for a reason and asking people on the forum 'because you couldn't be bothered to check the manual' is just lazy and actually takes more time, once you wait for someone to write a reply, etc. _________________ Current Gear: Kronos 61, RADIAS-R, Volca Bass, ESX-1, microKorg, MS2000B, R3, Kaossilator Pro +, MiniKP, AX3000B, nanoKontrol, nanoPad MK II,
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro |
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Thoraldus Platinum Member
Joined: 28 Nov 2010 Posts: 2061 Location: Rocky Mountains - SE IDaho
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:51 am Post subject: |
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I try to make it my personal goal that I read the manual cover to cover at least 3 times before I even turn on a new piece of gear. At a minimum you will have a good idea of where to look when you need help with a procedure.
While waiting for a shipment to arrive I go to the manufacturers web site and download the electronic version of the manual (usually a PDF file these days). Then after the equipment arrives I have a handy file I can do searches on. _________________ ”It’s easy to play any musical instrument: all you have to do is touch the right key at the right time and the instrument will play itself.”
Johann Sebastian Bach
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Rick Stirling - Retired Electrical Engineer - Erstwhile Photographer
Korg Kronos2, Casio MZ-X500, PA600, AKAI MPD32, M-Audio Oxygen 25, ZOOM H6, Cakewalk Sonar |
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Pastor-of-Muppets Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 774 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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this is about software, but a lot of it applies here too:
How To Ask Smart Questions
Here's the bit on RTFM
Of course noone will read this thread except the people who don't need to :-\ |
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Pastor-of-Muppets Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 774 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: READ THE MANUAL ? |
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Eat-Static wrote: |
But what if they don't understand the instructions in the manual , then what ?
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then you should say "I tried to create a pattern, but it won't let me save the results" or "I followed the instructions in the manual but at step N it didn't do ABC, instead it did XYZ"
don't say "how do I create a pattern? I did what it said in the manual" or "how do I do ABC? the instructions don't work" because the chances are the instructions are right and you misunderstood, but noone can help unless they know what you already tried.
"it doesn't work" usually means "I did it wrong" |
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cello Platinum Member
Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Posts: 2152 Location: Glasgow, UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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One factor overlooked so far, is that the manual can be a) wrong (might be because of translation and/or b) that the manual doesn't cover what the user is trying to do.
You don't get the user manual for Adobe Photoshop covering every single aspect of every single function that you could do to ONE particular photograph. Of course not - you play around with things to get the result you're looking for! But sometimes, you just can't nail it.
I view the manual as a functional description - eg to adjust the LFO do this or that. And if you're on this screen you can also do the other.
A Korg manual has never said "when you have a development based on the exposition in your piece, use the LFO to discriminate between the sounds - Korg also recommends that you use a contrapuntal element with a Radias to use the base line as the root of that development".
So herein lies the difference - yes, there are some answers you can get from the manual - and there's no harm pointing people to it if that's the answer (remember we have a lot of youngsters here that don't have high patience thresholds!). But other answers can't come from the manual - because they're not related to the parameters; it's because they're being creative and don't know how to do it.
Ultimately people come to this forum for advice - and more importantly (I think), a fast-track based on experience. There are many here who have freely given me their advice when I wanted to achieve 'whatever'. And I am so grateful - what is painfully obvious to them has been nightmarishly impossible for me! _________________ Plugged in: Fantom 8, Jupiter-X, Jupiter 80, System-8, JD-XA, V-Synth GTv2, FA-06, SE-02, JU-06A, TR-09, VT-4, Go:Livecast, Rubix44, Shure SM7b, Push2, Ableton 11 Suite, Sibelius, KRK Rokit 5, |
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