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bobbybland Full Member
Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 155
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:51 pm Post subject: Kronos Chord Triggers? |
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Hi,
Anyone know if the Kronos will have the chord triggers in the Kronos? I heard it's going to be touch screen now.
I'd love to be able to link this to my Korg nano pad controller,any idea's if this will be possible?
thanks _________________ Synths: Sequential Trigon6/Take 5/Korg Kronos 2 Minilogue XD/Prologue 16/Deepmind 12/Hydrasynth/PRO-800/Minimoog |
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EvilDragon Platinum Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 1992 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, you'll still be able to trigger chords from the virtual pads.
About integration with Nanopad, currently the answer is no. |
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bobbybland Full Member
Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 155
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Okay Thank you, will use with NI's Maschine then.. _________________ Synths: Sequential Trigon6/Take 5/Korg Kronos 2 Minilogue XD/Prologue 16/Deepmind 12/Hydrasynth/PRO-800/Minimoog |
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StephenKay KARMA Developer Approved Merchant
Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 2979 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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bobbybland Full Member
Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 155
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Always Stephen thanks. _________________ Synths: Sequential Trigon6/Take 5/Korg Kronos 2 Minilogue XD/Prologue 16/Deepmind 12/Hydrasynth/PRO-800/Minimoog |
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Jon Lord Senior Member
Joined: 07 Sep 2007 Posts: 452 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Stephen you know if kronos has multitouch, aka can play two chords/pads at the same time on the virtual pads? _________________ - Download & share Korg keyboard patches for free.
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cminor Senior Member
Joined: 22 Apr 2010 Posts: 299 Location: Romania Bucharest
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:09 am Post subject: |
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I hate to say it.. but what about velocity?
Will someone have the heart to HIT hard on the screen to obtain hard velocity?
This "virtual" pads system has a big problem...
As hard as you hit.. as short it will be the live of you touch screen... _________________ Korg M3-61, Korg i40m, Kurzweil SP76 |
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X-Trade Moderator
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 6494 Location: Leeds, UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Seeing as some of you apparently haven't bothered to read Stephen's post, I'll quote it here:
Stephen Kay wrote: | In what is already becoming a Frequently Asked Question, here's the answer:
The 8 pads present on the M3 and OASYS do not exist on the KRONOS. However, the internal parameters and pages related to setting the pads (in prog, combi, seq etc.), and triggering them via notes and CCs in the global Mode still exist.
Furthermore, touch triggering of the chords from the screen has been added on the Pads editing page, along with the ability to store your own chords (which is not available from the control surface). So, you can:
1) trigger the 8 chord pads from the pad page with your finger (vertical position equals velocity).
2) use an external controller device that sends CCs or notes, and trigger the 8 chords that way. Some people are presently using pad controllers or foot pedals - they will still work the exact same way on the KRONOS.
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And I seem to recall reading in the specs that it is a Resistive touchscreen. AFAIK you don't get resistive multitouch. _________________ Current Gear: Kronos 61, RADIAS-R, Volca Bass, ESX-1, microKorg, MS2000B, R3, Kaossilator Pro +, MiniKP, AX3000B, nanoKontrol, nanoPad MK II,
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro
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prashanth_estra
Joined: 06 Jan 2011 Posts: 28 Location: Chennai
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:38 am Post subject: |
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cminor wrote: | I hate to say it.. but what about velocity?
Will someone have the heart to HIT hard on the screen to obtain hard velocity?
This "virtual" pads system has a big problem...
As hard as you hit.. as short it will be the live of you touch screen... |
you need not hit hard on the screen to get a high velocity..
just check out this post by Stephen Kay..http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17669
it says:
1) trigger the 8 chord pads from the pad page with your finger (vertical position equals velocity). _________________ Prashanth. |
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EnjoyRC Platinum Member
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 746 Location: John 3:16
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Virtual screen buttons are simply not the same. I have an M3-73. There is something so real about feeling the pad with your finger tip. Resting on the pad in anticipation of playing it in time. Etc...
I know virtual pads will be hard to use. Picture some of the iPad music apps out there. You have to pay so close attention to not prematurely touch the screen before it's proper time in the music. The slightest touch will trigger.
The virtual pads will definitely have their use. But not the same way they did in the past. _________________
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X-Trade Moderator
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 6494 Location: Leeds, UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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But it is good that they can now be triggered by an external device - through MIDI Note or CC messages. Should be fairly easy to hook up a foot controller or pad controller. If its that important to you. _________________ Current Gear: Kronos 61, RADIAS-R, Volca Bass, ESX-1, microKorg, MS2000B, R3, Kaossilator Pro +, MiniKP, AX3000B, nanoKontrol, nanoPad MK II,
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro |
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EJ2 Approved Merchant
Joined: 13 May 2002 Posts: 2292 Location: Port Rowan, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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You know, there may be a physical engineering reason for using "virtual" pads in place of the mechanical pads found on the Karma, OASYS, M3, which many of us lamented their malfunctioning. Frankly, I think there is less of a chance for a design "flaw"; and, being software based, should be correctible in any OS update; whereas mechanical pads require physical servicing. And more than a few of us know about that routine. In addition, determining velocity by the mere position on the screen is less destructive (over time) than thumping mechanical pads.
Just the same, if needed you can use any other midi compliant pad set up such as a Korg padKONTROL http://www.korg.com/product.aspx?pd=414
In the case of this suggested device, you get an X/Y pad as well. There are others, of course, which can be suggested.
Just some thoughts.
Cheers,
Jim (aka EJ2) _________________ Cheers,
Jim (aka EJ2) Karma-Lab Associate Combi Developer
CATALYST v 2 Blast of Inspiration for KRONOS & OASYS: http://www.karma-lab.com/sounds/catalyst2.html
CATALYST v 1 Combi Explosion for KRONOS, OASYS, M3, & K-M50: http://www.karma-lab.com/sounds/catalyst1.html
CHEMISTRY 3, a Groove Injection for Your Karma: http://www.karma-lab.com/sounds/chem3.html
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orpheus2006 Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 597 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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With the Korg PadKontrol you can't assign chords to a button, or can you?
Oops, that was answered already. Pls just ignore this post. _________________ www.soundcloud.com/orpheus2006
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