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aron

I was wondering, with the analog models, do they have any triggering issues in mono mode when playing fast? I have had some keyboards that do not handle fast playing well when notes are triggered and you play really fast.

Is the Oasys quick in mono mode? Does it retrigger quickly?
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peter_schwartz · Full Member Joined: 14 Jan 2011 Posts: 206

I'll give you a perspective... if Joran Rudess can play the Kronos without dropping notes then the answer is "yes". Mr. Green

aron · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:02 am Post subject:

I know - easy answer but the Kurzweil PC3 has a problem with retriggering quickly. It has something to do with the way the envelopes work. One of my old Roland keyboards - you could smear across the keyboard and have it come out about a second later. Very cool effect!
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peter_schwartz · Full Member Joined: 14 Jan 2011 Posts: 206

Yup, easy answer, but true. In all the time I worked on Oasys and Kronos I never had a problem with notes not retriggering, and I can play very fast.

If you were to ever experience a "missed" envelope trigger on the Kronos I would immediately suspect that the sound is (deliberately) programmed for single triggering and not a fault in the keyboard or the design. Really, I don't think this would be a worry in the least.

aron · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:14 am Post subject:

Thanks Peter. I assume that you saw that I am speaking specifically of mono mode. If so, that's great to hear!

Of the keyboards I own, only the VL1 and my analogs are really, really quick at responding and triggering.
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EvilDragon · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:47 am Post subject:

Interesting, I never had any trouble with monophonic mode on PC3. Can retrigger very fast, in legato (single trigger) on non-legato (retrigger) mode. Not sure about what's the issue here.

Rosen Sound · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:57 am Post subject:

If youre reference to setting the envelope retrigger to single or multi when playing legato, even my triton can do this just fine, i assume the kronos can do it 1000x better!
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aron · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:04 am Post subject:

Hard for me to explain it correctly but it has been mentioned before in the PC3 forum. Something to do with mono and triggering and possibly portamento too.

I took a look back and they say it was addressed in an update, but I still feel that the lead sounds that I created are not as "fluid" and responsive as some of my other synthesizers. It could be the type of algorithm I am using, but it goes back to my point of just dialing up an analog emulation and being able to interact with it like I am used to. (Knobs etc...)
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EvilDragon · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:30 am Post subject:

aron · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:51 pm Post subject:

An example of a manufacturer that got it right is Nord. That synth engine is fluid and quick and leads can be played very easily. Anyway I hope thus Kronos will be just as good.
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EvilDragon · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:00 pm Post subject:

I did play a Nord Lead 2x, and while it's a great board, I can't say I noticed ANY difference in my lead playing between NL2x and PC3K8...

aron · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject:

Maybe it's the patches I am using. like anything else I guess we are picky about different things.
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EvilDragon · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:23 pm Post subject:

Could very easily be the case! Laughing