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[TIPS AND TRICKS] Clean and powerful music on the electribes
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah thats what i thought he meant.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good reading lots of usefull stuff, thanks ruso!
Have any of you looked into more deeply what kind of frequencies the ESX likes/dislikes?
Like how do you prepare your samples before moving it from your computer to the sampler? What frequencies to boost, cut and so on or other stuff that you do on pretty much every sample.

All I do now is normalize and sometimes fade out the end of samples to get rid of clicks. Sometimes it sounds good, some times not so good..
Ill look into the structure of my good sounding samples more when Ive got time, busy having fun atm Very Happy.

Oh I also route the sound from my laptop in the "audio through" part of the ESX to get and idea what the tubes will do to my sounds.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: [TIPS AND TRICKS] Clean and powerful music on the electr Reply with quote

Ruso wrote:


[size=18]The first tip I will say is GET NEW TUBES.


I'm a newbie who just got a used electribe. How do you get new tubes, what kind do you get, and how do you install them?

I'm going to read the rest of your post & all the forum. I am just learning how to record patterns. Lot to learn!!

Laura
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: [TIPS AND TRICKS] Clean and powerful music on the electr Reply with quote

woodswalker wrote:
Ruso wrote:


[size=18]The first tip I will say is GET NEW TUBES.


I'm a newbie who just got a used electribe. How do you get new tubes, what kind do you get, and how do you install them?

I'm going to read the rest of your post & all the forum. I am just learning how to record patterns. Lot to learn!!

Laura


My recommendation for a pair of very well priced and wonderfully sounding tubes is a MATCHED pair of EC803-S from euro-tubes.com

They are silky smooth crisp organic and metallic sounding.... Work GREAT with an overdriven synth bass line on the emx...

The esx has a bit less distortion capabilities and a set of EC83-S would be a better match for that machine in my opinion. They provide a bit more of a rough sound with the tube gain turned up (don't get me wrong.... everything still sounds crystal clear compared to stock tubes and no dirty destruction distortion)...

Good luck!

Oh and come hang out on my forum (http://electribe-forum.com) we got a lot of very knowledged musicians and compulsive knob tweakers hanging out.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the info...im going to try all this out since im new to my ESX, well everything BUT changing the tubes...i dont want to dismantle my new baby just yet Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No need, the tubes have a little cover with (one or two) screw(s).... you don't have to take the box apart, just take the cover off, pull the tubes out, put new ones in (it's a matter of aligning the pins Very Happy)
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh wow...that easy huh...im a PC / Laptop technician haha so it should be easy...im one of those people who, yes, read most of the manual and one of the first pages was a big warning about replacing the valves...they are not meant to be removed and are not serviceable...KORG using scare tactics on people who want better quality???

where can i find these "new and improved" tubes anyways?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EC83-S (for ESX) https://ssl.eurotubes.com/cart/index.php?page=view_products&category_id=2&sub_category_id=12
EC83-S GOLD: https://ssl.eurotubes.com/cart/index.php?page=view_products&category_id=2&sub_category_id=106

EC803-S (for EMX) https://ssl.eurotubes.com/cart/index.php?page=view_products&category_id=2&sub_category_id=73
EC803-S GOLD: https://ssl.eurotubes.com/cart/index.php?page=view_products&category_id=2&sub_category_id=107



They claim that gold pinned ones provide cleaner sound but I honestly don't see how the difference could even be audible..... anyway the gold ones look cooler Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive just got an ea1 and nearly had it talking! cool.Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I'll be unpopular, but in many cases I appreciate the emx's compressor. Yes, it is quite gross, but that grossness can result in some nice unexpected sound. If used considering the artifacts, you can manipulate those artifacts.

I have to say that my personal style is quite noisy, so that's probably a reason why I find it "comfortable". But maybe I'm the only one Anxious
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trancient wrote:
Maybe I'll be unpopular, but in many cases I appreciate the emx's compressor. Yes, it is quite gross, but that grossness can result in some nice unexpected sound. If used considering the artifacts, you can manipulate those artifacts.

I have to say that my personal style is quite noisy, so that's probably a reason why I find it "comfortable". But maybe I'm the only one Anxious


yup use that noisey comp on some pitched down claps!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just got the EMX1 and the ESX1 off Ebay. I am a guitar player and wanted to use the machines for backing tracks. Thanks for the forum and tips. Keep em coming. So I am 60 years young. I have been recording for over thirty years. I am a MIDI Guitar expert. Thanks for that TUBE info. I use alot of external compressors to the mix. It is my way of cleaning up the landscape to give room for all the other sounds. I record into two synced Roland 2480's. I agree about every thing you said about limiting the EFX and the envelope of the sound. Later Johnny G Long Island..
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: [TIPS AND TRICKS] Clean and powerful music on the electr Reply with quote

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The first tip I will say is GET NEW TUBES. They don't only change the tone and make electribes sound more smooth and organic, but they also give you a lot more leniency in leveling , filtering and mastering.


Is this still the case for an EMX1-SD?

Edit added: found ths thread: http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31647
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read though several threads on this topic, but I still have a few questions, as many of the posters seem to be from the UK, and the MX unit seems to have bigger issues than the sx in terms of noise with the original tubes.

1. Is there a difference between the type of tubes the mx and the sx are best suited for? I have an sx, but many of the posts seem to indicate the mx is the unit that has more of a problem with noise, so what tube upgrade would best suit the esx? I currently have the original tubes in mine, and it is a brand new unit.

2. I live in the US. What would be the best place to order upgraded tubes for an esx?

EDIT:

1 Looks like Groove Tubes GT-ECC83 Gold Series get the vote for the esx.

2. ebay, or one of the euro stores? Someone bought them off e bay. Guess I'd best go shopping. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to seperate mix into a bass-lowmid and compressed-group like so:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWTNT0ez0kI

gives you this kindof mixdown:

https://soundcloud.com/leon-du-star/no-oldschool-but-funk-live
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