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McHale · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:24 pm Post subject:

You just don't get it.
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CfNorENa · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:31 pm Post subject:

Gentlemen. Let's not let this online format get the best of us. Because I'm pretty sure that if we were sitting around together, in person, maybe having a few beers, and having this exact conversation, we'd all be having a laugh about it and not taking any of it too seriously...
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McHale · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:42 pm Post subject:

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Zeroesque · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:06 pm Post subject:

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Nuschooltone, dont sweat it. There's a few old school trolls around these parts.

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Randelph · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:04 pm Post subject:

NuSkoolTone,
I think the larger point for many of us that have been waiting so eagerly for the Kronos is that there's been more than a fair amount of negativity on this forum while we're all waiting.

And while your clamoring about the small mistakes in the K manual is not super serious bashing, it just adds to the pile already there. Many of us have a bad taste in our mouths from a lot of this- we're excited about the K, and then get wave after wave of exaggerated worries, sometimes unfounded fears, occasional outright trolling, and unreasonable expectations.

For many of us (I'll speak for myself), I'm thrilled that Korg has pulled this off. I never took the Oayses seriously 'cause I knew I couldn't afford it. Now it's a possibility, and while I am becoming something of a Korg fan-boy (because they deserve loyalty for the way they've come through), I don't see that as necessarily bad. Hearing people complain excessively and generally look at everything that's wrong, creates a negative, critical environment.

It's all relative. Compared to the Motif XS/XF, the user interface, and the sound quality are in another league all together. I had the Motif XS, and while everything from the documentation to the hardware to the support was all extremely professional and as it should be, I didn't find the board very inspiring at all; designed by engineers, not musicians. Compared to the ill-supported Fantom G, it looks like there are Korg folks onboard that will support this (this is the pet project for many of the top engineers- they're very excited about this board). Etc. Etc. Etc.

Given the business climate, the small size of the keyboard market, and the appalling re-hashing of rompler technology (for the most part) of the other manufacturers, these are very exciting times. Many people in these threads talk about selling off many/most of their keyboards, partly in order to afford the Kronos, but also 'cause it makes many of them redundant.

Korg has had its share of serious complaints, the ones I've heard about were mostly about a promised update to the Oayses that never happened. But historically, from everything i've heard (and experienced as an M3 owner) they typically:
1. Upgrade their OS for their flagships after the release to add important functionality/sounds/etc
2. Maintain some factory support on this forum
3. Manufacture reliable gear
4. Have the most musically friendly UI of any workstation

Beyond that, there will be some problems; but in the scheme of things, Korg is not an Apple that has practically unlimited resources; my understanding is they're a relatively small company. And thankfully Korg USA (I have no idea about Korg Japan) is very supportive.

So beyond that, we take the most-excellent (the Kronos) with the not-so-good (the rough edges), and support one another on this forum to learn this clever bit of music technology and fill in the gaps.

So, even if you have a valid point, being critical about something so relatively minor can have an effect on all of us on the forum, who are already cranky for having to wait so long. But I do understand that being told to shut up when you have a valid point brings out the belligerance and defiance in most of us.

Randy
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