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Please Confirm Preload.PCG

 
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Lou
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:55 am    Post subject: Please Confirm Preload.PCG Reply with quote

In disk mode, I can see Program Banks IA-IG and User Banks UA-UG.

Combi Banks IA-ID, I don't see IE-IG or any of the empty User Combi Banks, is this correct? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:29 am    Post subject: Re: Please Confirm Preload.PCG Reply with quote

Lou wrote:
In disk mode, I can see Program Banks IA-IG and User Banks UA-UG.

Combi Banks IA-ID, I don't see IE-IG or any of the empty User Combi Banks, is this correct? Thanks.


I don't have my Kronos yet, but I can compare your info to the Voice Name List.

Program Banks INT-A thru INT-F are full (128 per)
Program Bank INT-G (GM bank)
Program Banks USER-A thru USER-F are full
Program Bank USER-G is empty

Combi Banks INT-A thru INT-C are full (128 per)
Combi Banks INT-D has 96 Combis
Combi Banks USER-A thru USER-G are empty

When someone creates (or saves) a .pcg bank, you can exclude specific banks if you want. It does not surprise me that the Preload.pcg file does not have data for all of the "empty" banks (i.e. banks with no factory sounds). If it did, anything you had in those banks would be overwritten.

For example, given there are no factory Combis for USER-A thru USER-G Combi banks, Korg could have created a factory.pcg one of two ways:
1. excluded those banks from the .pcg file, so loading the preload.pcg does not affect these combi banks at all (from your description it appears this is what Korg did)
2. included initialized (empty) banks, so loading the preload.pcg would overwrite what ever you have in those banks.

Also note there should be some EXs.pcg files (see Voice Name List pp. 259-263).
-- EXs2 Concert Grand (8 Programs)
-- EXs3 Brass Woodwinds (128 Programs)
-- EXs3 Brass Woodwinds Extra (128 Programs, 64 Combis)
-- EXs4 Vintage Keyboards (69 Programs)

I suspect all of these Programs load by default into USER-G Program Bank (and the Combis load into USER-G Combi bank). Obviously you can't load all of these EXs extras at the same time.

I assume Korg had two objectives with .pcg data:
1. Keep one Program Bank (USER-G) open by default for user programs
2. Provide all of the extra sounds that were in the OASYS, even though, combined with the new Kronos Programs, there are more factory programs than banks to put them in.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:09 am    Post subject: Re: Please Confirm Preload.PCG Reply with quote

MartinHines wrote:
I don't have my Kronos yet, but I can compare your info to the Voice Name List.
Program Banks INT-A thru INT-F are full (128 per)
Program Bank INT-G (GM bank)
Program Banks USER-A thru USER-F are full
Program Bank USER-G is empty
Combi Banks INT-A thru INT-C are full (128 per)
Combi Banks INT-D has 96 Combis
Combi Banks USER-A thru USER-G are empty

Exactly how it is.
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It does not surprise me that the Preload.pcg file does not have data for all of the "empty" banks (i.e. banks with no factory sounds). If it did, anything you had in those banks would be overwritten.

I understand this now. I overlooked the fact that the Empty Program User G is not in the PCG. Embarassed
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For example, given there are no factory Combis for USER-A thru USER-G Combi banks, Korg could have created a factory.pcg one of two ways:
1. excluded those banks from the .pcg file, so loading the preload.pcg does not affect these combi banks at all (from your description it appears this is what Korg did)
2. included initialized (empty) banks, so loading the preload.pcg would overwrite what ever you have in those banks.

A ha, that makes perfect sense. I don't have my Oasys anymore but somehow I remember the empty User Combi Banks being in the PCG? Please correct me if I'm mistaken..
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-- EXs2 Concert Grand (8 Programs)
-- EXs3 Brass Woodwinds (128 Programs)
-- EXs3 Brass Woodwinds Extra (128 Programs, 64 Combis)
-- EXs4 Vintage Keyboards (69 Programs)

Yep, their all there. I haven't loaded any as of yet.
Thanks for clearing that up for me Martin, you were spot on.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: Please Confirm Preload.PCG Reply with quote

Lou wrote:
In disk mode, I can see Program Banks IA-IG and User Banks UA-UG.

Combi Banks IA-ID, I don't see IE-IG or any of the empty User Combi Banks, is this correct? Thanks.


Yes, that's correct.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Dan, can you please see:

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=62836
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