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drama1 · Platinum Member Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 663

I had a gig this weekend using my M3 and I must say I never thought I would really use the pads all that much, but after using the M3 for a few years I have really come to rely on them for triggering sound FX, chords and even using the pads to play short melodies. Since the pads are now on the touchscreen on the Kronos, I take it you cannot use setlist for SST when you have the pad screen showing?

RonF · Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:59 pm Post subject:

Yes, you can, but you need to change screens between Set List screen and the PAD screen. Thats a few button presses, and once you know what you are doing (navigation-wise) its fast. From any screen, you can jump back to Set List screen with the single press of the dedicated Set List button. Then, once you select your new item (combi, prog, or seq), with SST transitions, you can then navigate to the Pads screen of the new item, which is a few screen presses...maybe 3, from memory.

I would have liked to see a dedicated PAD button, so one could jump there instantly....or make it an assignable function of the S1/S2 buttons, so it could be user selected as such.

I am thinking about getting a Korg PadKontrol....which has a dedicated midi out (DIN) and would interface perfectly with KRONOS. That way its a non issue, and the experience is much like the M3/OASYS in this regard. Boy do they need to come up with a solution for using the nano series with KRONOS standalone!
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RonF · Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:03 pm Post subject:

To further address you question, let me point out that the "pad screen" as you put it is a page within each individual program, combi, or sequence....and is dedicated to it (saved with that item). Its not a global "pad screen". One reason why is that the chords played by pressing the virtual PADs are edited and saved (per item) from that screen. So when you change to a new item (prog, combi, seq), you need to navigate to that new item's "pad screen". Definitely not as slick as the dedicated pads of M3, where that global assignment is made for you. However, you can globally assign a midi controller (including up to 8 keys on the KRONOS keyboard itself) to trigger the Pads, and then this would work globally for each item. Thus my suggestion about an external pad controller.
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michelkeijzers · Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:26 pm Post subject:

I guess it is also possible to use the 8 'karma' hardware buttons/keys to trigger the pads?
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RonF · Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:34 pm Post subject:

I don't think so....at least not directly (perhaps you could route this OTB using External Setups, but that's not what you mean, I don't think)

The global settings for triggering the pads include note numbers and CC 0 - 127. You cannot set the KARMA buttons to send those triggers directly, internally...to the best of my understanding. Even if you could, it would be at fixed velocity regardless....no velocity capability.
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RonF · Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:11 pm Post subject:

a simple fix would be, in a future OS update.....

1. Allow an assignable button or pedal to be set to PAD page Jump.

2. Allow an assignable button or pedal to be set to activate and de-activate the keyboard assignment for pad control.

I could live with it if I could jump there with one button.....or if I could use the lower register of my keybed as "controllers" and quickly switch in and out so I could still play my keybed.

All that would keep it "local". But an external pad controller is likely the best solution for a live performance. And the best pad controller...simply due to size, would be the nano.....we just need KRONOS to support it!
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CoreyMast · Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:26 pm Post subject: pads

Correct me if I am wrong, but I remember one of the Korg guys saying that you can assign keys on the keyboard to activate the pads. I think it may have been Dan in a post that came out about the same time as the manuals. I'll probably go the midi route myself with something like a Korg PadKontrol.
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RonF · Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:02 am Post subject: Re: pads