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Rosen Sound · Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: Your analog engine of choice?

Having the K for a week now... I am becoming quite obsessed over its analog capabilities. That really is the first thing that I look for in a board (except the triton...) and these three engines sound...so....AMAZING!!!!!

Problem is... I'm incredibly overwhelmed when i am about to make a new sound (with the idea in my head) on which engine I should use... So far the way I'm thinking of it is.

Polysix - for more warm sounding and simple pads, and really awesome leads (the pulse wave on P6 is to freaking die for.)

AL-1 - for all the really super complex stuff. different types of filters and generally things that I wouldve done on the radias. And stuff that probably wouldnt be possible on say a moog.

MS-20... see this is where i get stumped... This engine confuses me a little (cause of the patch panel and the small text...) and I can't seem to find its niche. I am very open to your opinions and advice regarding it however. I want to get into it cause the filters sound SOOO GOOOOODD...

I would like to know which engines you use for what as well!
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Zeroesque · Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:40 pm Post subject:

I know this is probably a lame/standard point of view, but I would use the MS-20 for getting a Mini or 2600 sound...stuff before the 80's. That's not to say the oscs and filters would sound exactly the same or anything, it just has that vibe to me.
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synthguy · Platinum Member Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Posts: 661

robbinhood, even though I don't have the Kronos yet - and it was a very somber moment letting Sweetwater know today that I couldn't get it for a while, I can tell you what I'm going to do with it, and it's not that different from your list.

Polysix: being a basic synth engine, vintage strings, simple synth sounds and pads, some basses are in order.

MS-20: I don't think you can really call this a warm synth. More like bright, squelchy and cutting, but I'm open to letting it define itself. With the patch panel, it lends itself to experimentation, some traditional leads, pads and basses, but also a lot of outer space burbles, bleeps, sequencer style bubbling sounds, BBC Radiophonic Workshop types of sounds. I'm wondering if it might be a good stand-in for a PS-3300.

AL-1: this is where I'll be living most of the time - along with MOD-7 and HD-1, but you were talking VA type stuff. This is a virtual modular synth, and though it's going to be doing a lot of typical polysynth sounds, stunt-doubling for Oberheims, Moogs, ARPs and Prophets, I want to really fly with this thing. Leave the atmosphere behind and see if I can be Tomita. I don't recall how many oscillators and filters are available in a patch, but I intend to make more than a few sounds which stretch it as far as it can go.
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Broadwave · Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:35 am Post subject:

My preference is definitely the AL-1, although there's a few things that should be addressed...

Portamento needs to have the option of being both Log and Lin, I personally don't care for linear glide as it's too abrupt, most vintage analogues use log. Although later today, when I get the chance, I'll try smoothing key notes via the AMS mixer to see if that improves things.

Another problem that many VA synths suffer from, including the AL-1 (in mono mode), is the EG's, where the attack level ALWAYS starts from zero instead of the current release level when a new note is triggered... difficult to explain clearly, but I'm sure most of you will know what I'm on about.

Other than that, the AL-1 is the 2nd best VA synth I've owned (nothing comes close to the G2 for VA synthesis). But overall, the Kronos is quite simply the best keyboard I've ever owned.
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shap · Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:43 am Post subject:

Eager to explore my K-88 when it arrives Thursday, but I'm a brand new V-Synth GT owner as well, and I'm new to analog synthesis. Can somebody with more experience maybe help put the V-Synth engine qua analog synth in context relative to the various K-88 engines? Are there qualified similarities, or is this an apples and oranges sort of thing?

Separately, how about putting them in context in the vocoding context. That kind of function doesn't seem (to me) to emerge with much emphasis in the K-88 docs, but it's equally likely that I'm just not thinking about putting the K-88 pieces together in the right way.
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Broadwave · Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:17 am Post subject:

BasariStudios · Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:02 pm Post subject:

MOD-7!
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Mystic38 · Senior Member Joined: 27 Dec 2010 Posts: 266

@shap..

viewing the Vsynth-GT as a VA is like calling a ferrari a nice red car... Very Happy

IMO it is the only really new synth in the last 10 years and will complement the Kronos very well..
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BasariStudios · Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:38 pm Post subject:

VSynth is something else, has nothing to do with VA in general, even though
can recreate some stuff nicely, it is more of an experimental synth and also
its engine has nothing to do with VA.
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