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Jeremy Bender
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 Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:58 am Post subject: So I played a Kronos in the UK this week |
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I got very lucky this week and chanced upon a visit by Korg with a K61 to PMT in Birmingham.
I spent nearly an hour with it and it is truly fab! I immediately ordered an 88 and paid my deposit!
I was initially a bit disappointed with the physical look of the 61 especially the end cheeks which to meet looked a bit shiny to keep looking good and also felt a bit hollow. That said once I got playing that was forgotten
I have an M3 and the immediate thing for me was the enhanced clarity and definition in the sound on combis I know and love from that. The screen was big and clear but I do think the fonts could be bigger. However the amount of data and tabs on one page makes editing quicker and more obvious.
Two obvious questions for me. Can I use the legacy MS 20 controller via USB to control the MS20 in Kronos and can I use the pads on the M3 via midi to trigger the K as well? Obvious I am sure but any thoughts appreciated. |
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EvilDragon
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:21 am Post subject: Re: So I played a Kronos in the UK this week |
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| Jeremy Bender wrote: | | Two obvious questions for me. Can I use the legacy MS 20 controller via USB to control the MS20 in Kronos and can I use the pads on the M3 via midi to trigger the K as well? Obvious I am sure but any thoughts appreciated. |
1) I don't think so.
2) If the pads on M3 send out MIDI, then yes. |
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Trinity2112
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:20 am Post subject: Re: So I played a Kronos in the UK this week |
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| Jeremy Bender wrote: | | I was initially a bit disappointed with the physical look of the 61 especially the end cheeks which to meet looked a bit shiny to keep looking good and also felt a bit hollow. |
I was immediately disappointed with the physical appearance. The joystick, end caps and data wheel looked like they belonged on an entry level synth, not a $3000 workstation. While I could read the text fine, the buttons needed a pinpoint touch(s) before they responded, unlike the Oasys buttons which often respond with a light swipe. One thing I noticed was that the front panel, which I thought was metal, was actually warm to the touch. Which leads me to believe it was plastic.
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Kontrol49
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:45 am Post subject: Re: So I played a Kronos in the UK this week |
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| Trinity2112 wrote: | | I was immediately disappointed with the physical appearance. |
Does your Oasys know your eyeing up another mistress 
Why would you want a Kronos Beefburger....when you got an Oasys Steak at home?? 
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dustymaestro
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:04 am Post subject: Re: So I played a Kronos in the UK this week |
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| EvilDragon wrote: | | Jeremy Bender wrote: | | Two obvious questions for me. Can I use the legacy MS 20 controller via USB to control the MS20 in Kronos and can I use the pads on the M3 via midi to trigger the K as well? Obvious I am sure but any thoughts appreciated. |
1) I don't think so.
2) If the pads on M3 send out MIDI, then yes. |
I think you guys can hook up some usb stuff. You need this convertor. iconnectmidi:
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drchris
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Ok, my excuse is that it's late here.
I went to the iConnectMIDI site, and I don't get how this helps? Any MIDI capable keyboard (i.e. M3) should be able to connect via the MIDI out, right? Would this let you connect a NanoPad to the general MIDI in of the Kronos?
This interface is $179 - seems like its cheaper just to get gear that has MIDI out directly (i.e. AKAI MPD)
Again, maybe I'm missing the point.
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StephenKay
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| drchris wrote: | Ok, my excuse is that it's late here.
I went to the iConnectMIDI site, and I don't get how this helps? Any MIDI capable keyboard (i.e. M3) should be able to connect via the MIDI out, right? |
Correct.
| Quote: | | Would this let you connect a NanoPad to the general MIDI in of the Kronos? |
Well yes, that's the idea. You cannot connect a USB-only pad device directly to the Kronos. At least, not yet until Korg writes a driver that would allow that and bundles it into the OS.
So you could plug a USB only device into this, and get MIDI ports...
| Quote: | | This interface is $179 - seems like its cheaper just to get gear that has MIDI out directly (i.e. AKAI MPD) |
Correct again.  Like a Korg Pad Kontrol, which has been reported at my forums to work quite well:
http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18135
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McHale
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Good link. There's been discussion on here as well regarding the same thing. This is the first post I've seen where someone's confirmed they got it working to take over the duty of the on screen pads.
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Trinity2112
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:22 am Post subject: Re: So I played a Kronos in the UK this week |
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| Kontrol49 wrote: | | Trinity2112 wrote: | | I was immediately disappointed with the physical appearance. |
Does your Oasys know your eyeing up another mistress
Why would you want a Kronos Beefburger....when you got an Oasys Steak at home?? |
Curiosity. And yes, she knew all about it. She's kinda "funny" that way.
I'm so happy for all the Kronos owners who get to experience that glorious sound Oasys owners have been enjoying for years. That's all that really matters in the end.
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dustymaestro
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Drchris, I think it was designed mainly for the iphone, ipad connection. Its up to your imagination as to what else you could do with it.
I never knew that the Korg Padkontrol was so affordable.  |
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drchris
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While we're talking about iPad / iPhone,
It shouldn't be a problem to use software like touchAble http://touch-able.com/Site/touchable.html to connect with Ableton, and route messages to the Kronos. I particularly like the XY pad feature (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peG-K3F0WtQ) and think that will be really cool in controlling parameters inside the Kronos.
This may not really be possible until the VST comes out. I'll be checking into this more when my 88 comes this week.
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