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dangerousdave Full Member
Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 129 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:14 pm Post subject: MIDI Question |
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I'm wanting to have a second keyboard control only piano sounds on my Kronos, while I use the Kronos itself to play pads and strings. My experience of MIDI is minimal - I know this is pretty basic stuff, but it's still more than I've done before. Can anybody tell me what settings to use for a combo that does this? At the moment, when I play the second keyboard, it controls the whole combi. Thanks. _________________ Korg Kronos 61
Yamaha P-95
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X-Trade Moderator
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 6494 Location: Leeds, UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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1. Change your MIDI Controller to transmit on a different channel (that isn't used by KRONOS' Global channel, and isn't used by KARMA in your combi. I usually go for 2 or 16)
2. Set the timbre that you want to control to that same channel
Typically (and deliberately), most timbres in a combi will be assigned to the Global channel or one of the MIDI channels that KARMA controls, so that it will be heard when you operate the keyboard or KARMA plays notes.
Its simply a number between 1 and 16. If a note comes in on that channel then any timbre (program/sound) set to that channel will respond to it. _________________ Current Gear: Kronos 61, RADIAS-R, Volca Bass, ESX-1, microKorg, MS2000B, R3, Kaossilator Pro +, MiniKP, AX3000B, nanoKontrol, nanoPad MK II,
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro |
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dangerousdave Full Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks - I appreciate the help. _________________ Korg Kronos 61
Yamaha P-95
RB3 Keytar |
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dangerousdave Full Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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That's working well but (as a great man used to say) there is just one more thing.
Is there a way to apply the damper pedal of the Kronos to that timbre, ie to the piano that is controlled by the second keyboard? It looks to me like it should work (what looks like the appropriate box is checked), but it doesn't. I am using the DS-1H, which doesn't work with my second board, but I wouldn't have thought that that would matter. _________________ Korg Kronos 61
Yamaha P-95
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Chriskk Senior Member
Joined: 10 May 2011 Posts: 349
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:56 am Post subject: |
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You need to use a sustain pedal with the 2nd keyboard. |
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phattbuzz Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Jun 2011 Posts: 790 Location: NH USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Would it be possible to use AMS to use the Kronos damper with the second keyboard?
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Hmm - maybe not; can't find a way to connect to a different MIDI channel. _________________ Latest Set Up: Kronos 61, Casio Privia, Korg TR61, EoWave Ribbon, Roli Rise 48, TEC Breath Controller, StudioLogic MP-117 Bass Pedals, Moog Theremini.
Past Instruments of Construction: Hammond A100 w/Leslie 760, Korg R3, Roland AxSynth, Korg Poly61, Korg M1, Univox MaxiKorg, Korg MS2000, (2) Moog Concertmate MG1, (2) Hammond X5, Rhodes Mark I & 2, Farfisa Compact, Yamaha S08, Casio SK1, Strymon Mobius, Custom Bass Pedals, Burns B3 Theremin. |
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phattbuzz Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:25 am Post subject: |
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If you set up a second keyboard to be the bottom manual of an organ, does that mean there is no possible way to use an expression pedal to handle both keyboards like a typical Hammond? _________________ Latest Set Up: Kronos 61, Casio Privia, Korg TR61, EoWave Ribbon, Roli Rise 48, TEC Breath Controller, StudioLogic MP-117 Bass Pedals, Moog Theremini.
Past Instruments of Construction: Hammond A100 w/Leslie 760, Korg R3, Roland AxSynth, Korg Poly61, Korg M1, Univox MaxiKorg, Korg MS2000, (2) Moog Concertmate MG1, (2) Hammond X5, Rhodes Mark I & 2, Farfisa Compact, Yamaha S08, Casio SK1, Strymon Mobius, Custom Bass Pedals, Burns B3 Theremin. |
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X-Trade Moderator
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 6494 Location: Leeds, UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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phattbuzz wrote: | If you set up a second keyboard to be the bottom manual of an organ, does that mean there is no possible way to use an expression pedal to handle both keyboards like a typical Hammond? |
Depends what you're doing with the Expression Pedal.
IFX and MFX can be set to respond to a specific MIDI channel so you can get get level control of things by for example using a 'dummy' compressor where your foot pedal is set to control the Output Level only. _________________ Current Gear: Kronos 61, RADIAS-R, Volca Bass, ESX-1, microKorg, MS2000B, R3, Kaossilator Pro +, MiniKP, AX3000B, nanoKontrol, nanoPad MK II,
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro |
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phattbuzz Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Jun 2011 Posts: 790 Location: NH USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks XTrade,
Hadn't thought of using an FX section to do that. Seams like there's always a work around. I've been studying the manual and checking out all the posts here, so that I can familiarize myself with the instrument before making the purchase (not that I won't purchase - just saving up a bit more cash). _________________ Latest Set Up: Kronos 61, Casio Privia, Korg TR61, EoWave Ribbon, Roli Rise 48, TEC Breath Controller, StudioLogic MP-117 Bass Pedals, Moog Theremini.
Past Instruments of Construction: Hammond A100 w/Leslie 760, Korg R3, Roland AxSynth, Korg Poly61, Korg M1, Univox MaxiKorg, Korg MS2000, (2) Moog Concertmate MG1, (2) Hammond X5, Rhodes Mark I & 2, Farfisa Compact, Yamaha S08, Casio SK1, Strymon Mobius, Custom Bass Pedals, Burns B3 Theremin. |
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