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theshinenz
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 Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:54 am Post subject: Setlist Inc and Dec via midi? |
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Hi....
Been scanning the manuals for this....found cc#82 is footswitch, which you can use to increment through setlists.
Can you do the opposite with another CC via midi? As in set two midi buttons on a multipedal to inc and dec values?
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:22 am Post subject: |
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See the parameter guide, page 1103.
CC 96 and 97 are for Data inc and Data dec (i.e. simulating the up/down buttons). Probably these can be used to go up/down a program (assuming the ' cursor' is on the program/combi/set list number.
Never tried it tough.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| Cool. Thanks for that, I'm still waiting patiently forth 73 to be released, in the meantime I want to set up pedals etc to make it as flexible as possible live. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:01 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure if it works though, but if it works and together with the smooth transition and a sustain pedal I may go from two to one synth.
What kind of pedals you are using? Something like Behringer FCB1010 (I'm using those). It's very convenient. Currently I'm controlling the following items:
- Leslie Slow/Fast (with two separate switches on the FCB), because a LED on each switch shows the current speed.
- Portamento on/off
- Sustain
- Foot pedal for volume on one synth (without affecting the other)
- Foot pedal for special purposes (assigned to a CC I can use differently per combi).
But I'm going to try two switches for program up/down too.
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Scott
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| michelkeijzers wrote: | Behringer FCB1010 ... Currently I'm controlling the following items:
- Leslie Slow/Fast (with two separate switches on the FCB), because a LED on each switch shows the current speed.
- Portamento on/off
- Sustain
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But I'm going to try two switches for program up/down too. |
I not well versed in FCB1010, but from the manual, I got the impression that only two of the foot switches could be used to send CC commands. Or do you call up different presets to get different sets of two?
| michelkeijzers wrote: | | Leslie Slow/Fast (with two separate switches on the FCB), because a LED on each switch shows the current speed. |
As I was discussing on another thread, you can address the Kronos' lack of a visual indicator for Leslie speed by reassigning it from JS+Y to SW2 (or SW1). Then I think you'd be able to assign a single FCB1010 foot switch to send the CC for whichever SW you used, and you would have a visual indicator on the Kronos itself to let you know the current speed, and you'd only "use up" one foot switch (and not have to worry about aiming for the right one depending on which direction you needed to switch). |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes I'm using an fcb1010, and it can send cc messages on any pedal I'm pretty sure. I will be setting two banks up, one with karma scenes,patch changes, sustain and most common used functions. The other bank will be some common functions along with about 5 pedals dedicated to triggering pads so I can use them for backing chords when already playing with both hands. |
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michelkeijzers
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Scott wrote: | | michelkeijzers wrote: | Behringer FCB1010 ... Currently I'm controlling the following items:
- Leslie Slow/Fast (with two separate switches on the FCB), because a LED on each switch shows the current speed.
- Portamento on/off
- Sustain
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But I'm going to try two switches for program up/down too. |
I not well versed in FCB1010, but from the manual, I got the impression that only two of the foot switches could be used to send CC commands. Or do you call up different presets to get different sets of two?
| michelkeijzers wrote: | | Leslie Slow/Fast (with two separate switches on the FCB), because a LED on each switch shows the current speed. |
As I was discussing on another thread, you can address the Kronos' lack of a visual indicator for Leslie speed by reassigning it from JS+Y to SW2 (or SW1). Then I think you'd be able to assign a single FCB1010 foot switch to send the CC for whichever SW you used, and you would have a visual indicator on the Kronos itself to let you know the current speed, and you'd only "use up" one foot switch (and not have to worry about aiming for the right one depending on which direction you needed to switch). |
I have the so called UNO patch, which can do a little more.
Also the SW1/2 idea sounds very good, actually, one of my behringer switches is already assigned to SW1 so I don't have to get my hand from the keyboard.
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Hi guys, finally got this pedal all set up with the Kronos, had a few issues which I,ve sorted, but I cannot get it it Inc and dec with cc #96 and cc #97, has anyone tried it? I'm really keen to get it sorted, I've got it working for karma scenes and sw1 and sw2 so far. Please help, is here a place to set controller number at least increment if not decrement?
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theshinenz
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| Oh forgot to mention I DO have the UNO upgrade installed. |
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| I tried setting my midi controller to cc82 which should be he footswitch then setting footswitch to data Inc but it didnt work, I guess this is because it's expecting he signal from the input rather than midi? |
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| theshinenz wrote: | | I tried setting my midi controller to cc82 which should be he footswitch then setting footswitch to data Inc but it didnt work, I guess this is because it's expecting he signal from the input rather than midi? |
Actually it should not matter where it comes from ... I don't have a Kronos but I can check it with my M50 (however can take some time since I don't have them here now).
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theshinenz
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I am wondering if theres a checkbox somewhere or some setting that needs changing, I can send, modulation, sustain, sw1 and sw2 messages, but cannot get Inc and Dec to work nor can I get the pads cc's to respond via midi. I set the pads to cc110-cc117 but nothing when I send a velocity of 127.
Hopefully maybe Dan or Rich can help. These are two things I'd really like to have working asap for gigging....which I have one in two days....arrrgh. |
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| Quote: | | I set the pads to cc110-cc117 but nothing when I send a velocity of 127 |
Not sure what you're doing, exactly, but velocity is not part of a controller message.
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theshinenz
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| jg:: wrote: | | Quote: | | I set the pads to cc110-cc117 but nothing when I send a velocity of 127 |
Not sure what you're doing, exactly, but velocity is not part of a controller message.
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So then what value would I send with the cc message? 0? 1?
In the manual it says 0-127 should be the value i thought?
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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I since got the pads working by midi, but found theres two areas I had to set the CC's up in, I still haven't come across anywhere to comfirm the CC's being 96 and 97 for program inc and dec via midi, doesn't seem to work no matter what value I send, tried 0, 1, 127 and in between.
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