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Which engine vexes you the most? |
HD-1 |
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8% |
[ 2 ] |
AL-1 |
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20% |
[ 5 ] |
STR-1 |
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32% |
[ 8 ] |
SGX-1 |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
CX-3 |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
MOD-7 |
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28% |
[ 7 ] |
EP-1 |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
MS-20EX |
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8% |
[ 2 ] |
PolySixEX |
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4% |
[ 1 ] |
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Vlad_77 Senior Member
Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Posts: 380 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:40 pm Post subject: Which engine vexes you most? |
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Nine synth engines and astounding possibilities. That said, which engine has proven thus far to be the hardest to get your head around? _________________ Current gear: Kronos, Jupiter 80, Kurzweil PC3,Roland Fantom X8, Roland XV-88 (yep, its old, but the ACTION is heaven and those XV-3080 sounds are still wonderful for me), Radias-R, Motif ES (yeah it's older but I love the guitars ) |
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 6510 Location: NYC, USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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I dont know, i dont use the CX3 but it seems pretty easy since there is nothing
to it...the other ones i am already familiar from other machines. _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
Cubase 8.5 Pro. Windows 7 X64. ASUS SaberTooth X99. Intel I7 5820K. ASUS GTX 960 Strix OC 2GB. 4x8 GB G.SKILL.
2 850 PRO 256GB SSDs. 1 850 EVO 1TB SSD. Acustica: Nebula Server 3 Ultimate, Murano, Magenta 3, Navy, Titanium. |
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Sina172 Platinum Member
Joined: 29 May 2007 Posts: 1194
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Vlad_77 Senior Member
Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Posts: 380 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Sina,
AL-1 is a tricky one for me too. MOD-7 I chose as hardest though because I have had zero experience with FM so all I am doing with that right now is just pure experimentation! Knowing my luck I will wire something up and blow up my apartment
Ahimsa,
Vlad _________________ Current gear: Kronos, Jupiter 80, Kurzweil PC3,Roland Fantom X8, Roland XV-88 (yep, its old, but the ACTION is heaven and those XV-3080 sounds are still wonderful for me), Radias-R, Motif ES (yeah it's older but I love the guitars ) |
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cello Platinum Member
Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Posts: 2152 Location: Glasgow, UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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AL-1 here too - and by no means out of the learning curve; still on the steep bit!
MOD-7; getting there (Kevin Nolan's huge library helped me learn).
PolysixEX - where I go just to have fun Immediate + direct = fun!
Although I've only got 7 engines, there's a lifetime's learning still inside my O _________________ Plugged in: Fantom 8, Jupiter-X, Jupiter 80, System-8, JD-XA, V-Synth GTv2, FA-06, SE-02, JU-06A, TR-09, VT-4, Go:Livecast, Rubix44, Shure SM7b, Push2, Ableton 11 Suite, Sibelius, KRK Rokit 5, |
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Sina172 Platinum Member
Joined: 29 May 2007 Posts: 1194
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Broadwave Platinum Member
Joined: 25 May 2011 Posts: 1118 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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I find the STR-1 more complicated than MOD-7, a real steep learning curve.
AL-1 and MS20EX is a doddle for me as I'm a long time modular user, I just see the AMS sources/destinations as patch points and go from there
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danatkorg Product Manager, Korg R&D
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 4204 Location: California, USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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Vlad_77 wrote: | Sina,
AL-1 is a tricky one for me too. MOD-7 I chose as hardest though because I have had zero experience with FM so all I am doing with that right now is just pure experimentation! Knowing my luck I will wire something up and blow up my apartment
Ahimsa,
Vlad |
Don't forget to check out the MOD-7 tutorial in the Parameter Guide ("Synthesis with the MOD-7: a guided tour"); 9 pages of step-by-step walkthroughs for all the major MOD-7 features.
- Dan _________________ Dan Phillips
Manager of Product Development, Korg R&D
Personal website: www.danphillips.com
For technical support, please contact your Korg Distributor: http://www.korg.co.jp/English/Distributors/
Regretfully, I cannot offer technical support directly.
If you need to contact me for purposes other than technical support, please do not send PMs; instead, send email to dan@korgrd.com |
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drchris Full Member
Joined: 21 May 2011 Posts: 178 Location: Memphis, TN
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:52 am Post subject: |
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danatkorg wrote: |
Don't forget to check out the MOD-7 tutorial in the Parameter Guide ("Synthesis with the MOD-7: a guided tour"); 9 pages of step-by-step walkthroughs for all the major MOD-7 features.
- Dan |
Yes, that tutorial is GREAT! If you have a couple of hours, just sit and go through it. You'll understand MOD-7 so much more! Very well written and much appreciated!
As was mentioned above, a few of the other good FM synthesis tutorials online really help too. I particularly like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRazfCjnF8M and the subsequent videos in that series.
Chris _________________ Kronos 88 # 000135
Ableton Live / AKAI APC40 / AKAI MPK49 |
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Gribs
Joined: 20 Apr 2010 Posts: 25
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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I can disappear into my own world for a couple of hours just playing with making and tweaking just one patch on any one of the synths. In the end it may or may not be pleasing to me, but I never feel like any patch is "done" and whenever I do get into tweaking like this it really helps me to appreciate the sound design work that has gone into the factory patches.
I totally get the idea of FM synthesis (and all the math behind it as I am a PhD/EE computational scientist by profession), but despite all that I have found that I have to play around a lot to just hear what I get. There is a big void between understanding the math and how it works and getting a time-dependent sound out that achieves a desired effect. I have relied more on serendipity than anything else in that regard. Despite this, I have spent some considerable time with soft synths like FM8 and Blue I am not really feeling out of place with MOD7 at all.
It is Str-1 that is somewhat new to me. I have played with some Karplus-Strong style synthesis in Reaktor and also using the comb filters in my Waldorf Q Phoenix board and in Vaz Modular. It is the grokking of the specific parameter set for Str-1 that is the block for me so far, despite the stuff in the parameter guide. I would like to see a more technical description of the math behind some of the parameters. That might help. _________________ Korg Kronos, iElectribe, iMS20
Waldorf Q Phoenix, Blofeld, Largo
Moog Voyager, VX-351, CP-251
Roland RD700-GX
NI Komplete, Kore, Maschine
Eurorack modular that never ceases to grow |
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