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[WorknMan]

Our local GC finally got the Kronos, so I drove down to check it out today. Gonna go back on Monday to play some more, because there was way too much chaos in there today, and people who wanted their turn at the Kronos were circling around me like vultures, so figured it would be better to go in there on a week day

Anyway, one thing that irritated me very quickly was Karma in Combi mode. Wanted very much to play with some of the sounds I was hearing, but the f*****g drums were pissing me off. However, if I used the Karma controls to turn off the drums, then the sound would be different

For example, I think on the very first patch (A00?), it had a nice piano/pad sound, but when I turned off the drums, it would change to piano/string So the question is, how do I turn off the drums and still get the same sound that was playing with the drums? I realize that on some sounds that have arpeggios/patterns playing, this might not be possible, but with the example I listed, it should work?

Note: I didn't mind the drums being on most of the time, just that sometimes I really wanted to turn them off.

[Bald Eagle]

If a KARMA module is generating the drum track then you will have to keep KARMA running and just disable the KARMA module that is running the drums. Page 213 of the Operations Guide discusses KARMA module “Run” and “Solo” settings.

Here is an excerpt from that manual.

In Combination mode, up to four KARMA modules can be operating simultaneously.
If KARMA is off, all KARMA modules will be stopped.
If KARMA is on, the KARMA module(s) you specify here will operate.

1. Go to the Combination P7: KARMA– GE Setup/Key Zones page.
2. Use the “Run” and “Solo” settings to specify the module(s) that will operate when KARMA is on.

KARMA modules whose “Run” setting is On (checked) will operate.

If you turn “Solo” On (checked), only that KARMA module will sound. This is useful when you are
selecting a GE, or when you want to audition the phrase that a module is generating. Modules whose “Solo” is On (checked) will sound even if “Run” is Off (unchecked).

[kid_nepro_2002]

Never mind. Misread your post.
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[Bald Eagle]

Another method that might be easier but won’t always work is to use the KARMA switches. Press the RT Knobs / KARMA button then use the KARMA switches. The KARMA switches 1-4 are very often assigned to turn on/off KARMA modules A, B, C, D. It won’t work for all combis because those switches might be assigned to other functions.

[Lou]

[Bald Eagle]

That’s great advice from Lou. If you’re new to Korg then start in Program Mode. Controlling combis with KARMA takes time to learn. Jam with the KARMA presets and take it home to tweak it. You won’t be disappointed once you learn it.

[WorknMan]

[BasariStudios]

Wokrn...yes you can is the answer to your question...now HOW is another
story but you can, first you have to be familiar with KARMA then you will
know how to turn it of or REPROGRAM the parts that you need.
Dont let that drive you away from the Kronos.
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[WorknMan]

Oh, it's not gonna drive me away. It's just a little inconvenient when you're sitting in GC and trying to figure out how to turn off the drums, but it's certainly not a deal breaker lol

Actually, my only dilemma at this point is whether I'm gonna spend $3000+ on a hardware synth, or just use a MIDI controller and VSTs. The Kronos seems to make some rather unique sounds that might be hard to replicate on VSTs. I'm sure pianos, EPs, organs, etc wouldn't be a problem, but the layered/textured sounds that the Kronos does (and the ability to easily mix/match these different synthesis types) when you're just sitting around and jamming is a different story. That is why I am so interested in the combis.

[drchris]

[Nippess]

Yes, I agree with Lou, it really IS a patient and gradual learning curve!
Also DRChris, thanks, very helpful for me to read your post.
I've had my Kronos 5 weeks now, and looking through the Operations Guide, I noticed something rather basic as I was looking for other info.
The sliders on the left Control panel DON'T need to all be at the bottom position (well, that's how they were when I unpacked the box )
Hehehe... now I know it's best with them in the central position where the little dots are....I was wondering why there was no sound....the Master slider was at the bottom!
Anyway, little and often learning from those mistakes makes us better in the longer run (how long with Kronos? No hurry, take it steady I think).
I realise I'm not alone in discovering the beauty of Kronos.
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[WorknMan]

Went back for another round with the Kronos today, and can say that the tips in this thread really helped out Unfortunately, I wasn't as impressed with the Kronos as the first time around. Being a Yamaha Motif XS owner, I would have to sell the Motif in order to afford the Kronos, and I'm not sure I like the Kronos THAT much Most of that has to do with very specific sounds I have from the various 3rd party libraries I own, and dreading having to program these all over again on the Kronos. IMHO, synth makers really need to think a lot more about backwards compatibility in their newer models. I think it was very short-sighted of Korg to throw a new synth engine into the M3, and then completely discard it in the next model.

[michelkeijzers]