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curvebender Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:34 pm Post subject: Changing KARMA scenes with Nanopad 2?.. |
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Is it possible to assign pads on the Nanopad 2 to control the KARMA scene switches?
I know it's possible to control the sliders with the Nanokontrol 2.
From the parameter guide, page 1133:
KARMA Slider1 (CC#22) [Bn, 16, vv]
KARMA Slider2 (CC#23) [Bn, 17, vv]
KARMA Slider3 (CC#24) [Bn, 18, vv]
KARMA Slider4 (CC#25) [Bn, 19, vv]
KARMA Slider5 (CC#26) [Bn, 1A, vv]
KARMA Slider6 (CC#27) [Bn, 1B, vv]
KARMA Slider7 (CC#2 [Bn, 1C, vv]
KARMA Slider8 (CC#29) [Bn, 1D, vv]
But the eight scene switches seem to be mapped to one (1) CC:
KARMA SCENE (CC#30) [Bn,m 1E, vv]
This corresponds to the KARMA SCENE switches.
(vv” value; 00: Scene 1, 01: Scene 2, 02: Scene 3, 03:
Scene 4, 04: Scene 5, 05: Scene 6, 06: Scene 7, 07: Scene 8,
08…7F: invalid)
Any ideas?..
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Lou Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2002 Posts: 1305 Location: DE. USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Just curious,.. but why would you route scene changes to the pads when they are already setup for you with the very convenient switches.
Why not leave the pads open for some other important duty? _________________ Lou |
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curvebender Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Lou wrote: | Just curious,.. but why would you route scene changes to the pads when they are already setup for you with the very convenient switches.
Why not leave the pads open for some other important duty? |
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Lou Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, we all have our own preferences, I just thought that the switches couldn't be any more efficient as they are and that you would gain more benefit from the pads in another way.
It's very easy to get all wrapped up in setting things up only to find that we really have no need for it. God, am I victim of that! _________________ Lou |
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Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 6510 Location: NYC, USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:23 am Post subject: |
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Lou wrote: | Thanks, we all have our own preferences, I just thought that the switches couldn't be any more efficient as they are and that you would gain more benefit from the pads in another way.
It's very easy to get all wrapped up in setting things up only to find that we really have no need for it. God, am I victim of that! |
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Sparker Senior Member
Joined: 26 Feb 2009 Posts: 483 Location: Wales UK
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:57 am Post subject: |
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In KARMA 1 for my Triton I used to have a Microkontrol set up so that the bottom pads triggered the four chord pads and the upper pads controlled the KARMA on/off, latch, SW1 & SW2 and toggled between scene 1 & 2, so it should be possible to send scene change commands via CC.
I don't know if this works with more than 2 scenes (I used a straight 'toggle' on/off command). Maybe you can set up the Nanopad2 Editor so that each pad sends a different value for CC#30 that matches the different scene selection?
from the Korg UK web-site:
Korg Kontrol Editor software
The nanoKONTROL2 works with the "Korg Kontrol Editor" software – available free on the Korg website. Load it into your computer, and use it to make detailed customized settings. For example, the minimum and maximum values for each control change message can be specified. _________________ Kronos 61 & KK KARMA / Triton Ex c/w MOSS and TR KARMA / MS2000 / Radias / Kaossilator Pro & Kaossilator / Korg Kontrol 49 / Nanopad / Novation Nova / Waldorf Blofeld
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orangefunk Full Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like a good idea... one problem with the current buttons is that its all too easy to hit the sliders and get unwanted things happening (I am thinkig live here). Having some of the Karma functionality off loaded to the Nanopad sounds a nice idea. That way you can use the sliders for mixer duties... |
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Kontrol49 Platinum Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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I've used a Novation Remote Zero controller to switch scenes on the Oasys as the keyboard wasn't always within reach in various live situations,to switch scenes I did it via System exclusive messages sent from the Novation to Oasys.
You can see what data is required if you run a midi cable from the Kronos out and record the scene switching into a computer or other software able to use or display Sysex,hit record on your software program and do a couple of scene switches,then use your software editor to view the info.
This is how I did it to find out the hex data for the Oasys for each scene,then copied and pasted the message data into the novation editor to transcribe over the Remote Zero scenes!the only data that should be different for each scene is the data byte so its easy to see which scene is what message
Never tried the CC method,and suspect its the only option for the Nanopad unless its possible to use it to send sys ex data! _________________ --Korg Nautilus~~Korg Modwave--Korg SV-1-Korg Wavestate-- |
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Sparker Senior Member
Joined: 26 Feb 2009 Posts: 483 Location: Wales UK
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:28 am Post subject: |
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The Op Guide Page 23 says:
"You can also play the chord pads using Korg USB
MIDI controllers equipped with drum pads, including:
• nanoPAD and nanoPAD2
• microKONTROL
• padKONTROL
• KONTROL49
When these controllers are connected, the KRONOS
will automatically determine the MIDI assignments of
the controller’s pads 1‐8, and map them directly to the
KRONOS pads.
For more information, see “USB MIDI controllers” on
page 1126 of the Parameter Guide."
So with the Naopad you just have to connect the USB to the Kronos and it's all done automatically. _________________ Kronos 61 & KK KARMA / Triton Ex c/w MOSS and TR KARMA / MS2000 / Radias / Kaossilator Pro & Kaossilator / Korg Kontrol 49 / Nanopad / Novation Nova / Waldorf Blofeld
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Sparker Senior Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:30 am Post subject: |
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You need to have installed OS 1.5.0 for the above automation ...
but that's for the pads not the scenes.
If you can set the scenes up using CC's then you will be able to control both pads and scenes from the NanoPad _________________ Kronos 61 & KK KARMA / Triton Ex c/w MOSS and TR KARMA / MS2000 / Radias / Kaossilator Pro & Kaossilator / Korg Kontrol 49 / Nanopad / Novation Nova / Waldorf Blofeld
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curvebender Platinum Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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No, I don't think the Nanopad can transmit Sysex data.
The problem is that I haven't figured out a way to program the Nanopad to transmit a given CC with a specific value.
Is that possible at all?..
Thanks. _________________ Paul: Don't be nervous.
John: I'M NOT NERVOUS!!! |
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