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soundsailer
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 Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:49 pm Post subject: what can the oasys do that the kronos can't?? |
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what can an oasys do that the kronos can't ?
would the two together make the ideal setup?
Got to be a good thread concerning this but I can't find it
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: what can the oasys do that the kronos can't?? |
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| soundsailer wrote: | what can an oasys do that the kronos can't ?
would the two together make the ideal setup?
Got to be a good thread concerning this but I can't find it |
There is not to much difference between the two, i would not choose both of them in my setup but add another synth with a diffeent sound pallette like the Jupiter 80, A Motif or a true solo synth. |
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I agree with Bachus - I rejected getting a Kronos in favour of a JP-80 instead. I saw that with only technical differences between the two (and of course that the K is supported and the O isn't) the Kronos only duplicated what I already had in the OASYS.
There are only a few (minor) things that I can think of that the O does 'on board' that the Kronos doesn't - the O has a CD burner but you have to buy one for the Kronos, and the O has mechanical pads and the K has software pads. I much prefer the mechanical ones. Then of course the O has that wonderful big screen...
I think too that the O has 4 audio inputs but the Kronos has 2 (someone please confirm - this might be my memory playing tricks on me!).
Other than that, the K brings lots of hard/software improvements over the OASYS (Setlist, SSD, SST, etc).
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@Cello: confirmed, the Kronos has only two audio inputs, each input has a Mic/Line button and a knob for the gain.
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Sonically - nothing (there are of course the physical control surface differences mentioned in other posts)
Sonically, the Kronos has all the capabilities of the OASYS, and then some. So stick to the Kronos and add to it it with another type of keyboard (or instrument altogether).
I'm an OASYS user and I find it as wonderful today as the first day I played it so I'm not knocking it in any way - I adore it - but you have all that it delivers already in the Kronos and as you know a lot, lot more. So I would argue against getting an OASYS. You'd feel you were repeating yourself yet with new, important bits missing!
If you're looking for more, surely another make of synth, some plugins or perhaps even an electronic drum kit would compliment it.
My personal recommendations - add Monotribe, Wavedrum-mini and iMS20 to your Kronos / Computer setup - now there's a potent combination.
As an aside, I gave a demonstration on synthesis to a 4th year College AV degree class last week. Side by side I had a Moog LP (which I very much like) and a Monotribe. It's the first time I put the Monotribe through a (very high quality) PA and it was absolutely magnificent. In my opinion, its core sound was stronger than that of the LP. If only Korg would put a keyboard on that synth engine - then you'd have THE perfect playable instrument to go with your Kronos. But in earnest - to shake it up - look at a monotribe.
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SeedyLee
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Kevin Nolan wrote: |
As an aside, I gave a demonstration on synthesis to a 4th year College AV degree class last week. Side by side I had a Moog LP (which I very much like) and a Monotribe. It's the first time I put the Monotribe through a (very high quality) PA and it was absolutely magnificent. In my opinion, its core sound was stronger than that of the LP. If only Korg would put a keyboard on that synth engine - then you'd have THE perfect playable instrument to go with your Kronos. But in earnest - to shake it up - look at a monotribe.
Kevin. |
A little off-topic: not sure if you're aware, but it's relatively trivial to add a MIDI input to the Monotribe that allows control from a regular MIDI controller.
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Hi all,
The Kronos actually has six audio inputs- Two analog mic/line ins, two optical S/PDIF ins, and software inputs via USB.
Just to add to the list, OASYS also has additional control surface LEDs, more analog outputs, optional Word Clock/ADAT I/O, and two phantom-powered mic preamps. Also, remember that in Kronos OS v1.5, you can now add a nanoPAD (or any other class-compliant USB controller) to regain the physical pads found in the OASYS.
Hope this helps,
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| cello wrote: | I agree with Bachus - I rejected getting a Kronos in favour of a JP-80 instead. I saw that with only technical differences between the two (and of course that the K is supported and the O isn't) the Kronos only duplicated what I already had in the OASYS.
There are only a few (minor) things that I can think of that the O does 'on board' that the Kronos doesn't - the O has a CD burner but you have to buy one for the Kronos, and the O has mechanical pads and the K has software pads. I much prefer the mechanical ones. Then of course the O has that wonderful big screen...
I think too that the O has 4 audio inputs but the Kronos has 2 (someone please confirm - this might be my memory playing tricks on me!).
Other than that, the K brings lots of hard/software improvements over the OASYS (Setlist, SSD, SST, etc). |
NO Smooth Sound Transitions (SST) technology
how about them graphic track meters like the M3 so you can see which tracks are active?
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You can adjust the angle of the display. That is a big plus in my opinion.
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| RichF wrote: | Hi all,
The Kronos actually has six audio inputs- Two analog mic/line ins, two optical S/PDIF ins, and software inputs via USB.
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Hi Rich,
Can those six audio inputs be used independently at the same time? So that we could record them to separate audio tracks in the sequencer?
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Shakil wrote: | | RichF wrote: | Hi all,
The Kronos actually has six audio inputs- Two analog mic/line ins, two optical S/PDIF ins, and software inputs via USB.
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Hi Rich,
Can those six audio inputs be used independently at the same time? So that we could record them to separate audio tracks in the sequencer? |
Yes. All you have to do is route them to your mixer or DAW and each program can be individually controlled with or without the assigned effects.
The beauty of the OASYS is the fact that, because you you have 8 Individual Outputs, you can route 8 Timbres at a time in Combi or SEQ Mode to your DAW for direct audio recording with or without effects.
They can be in Stereo Pairs (1/2, 3/4, 5/6, 7/ , or Mono.
Even the Inputs on the OASYS and KRONOS can be assigned this way. It's SUPER flexible and makes a very powerful Digital Mixer/DAC.
KRONOS has 4 Individual Outs so you get half of what the OASYS was capable of.
To the OP,
The question isn't what OASYS can do that KRONOS can't. The question is what CAN'T they do (apart from the Sequencer). OASYS STILL gives you amazing Pianos and EP's, even if you don't have the dedicated Engines.
There is ZERO difference in sound quality between the two instruments and the only advantage OASYS will give you is hardware:
8 Individual Outs vs 4 on KRONOS
The Main L/R Outputs on KRONOS are now Balanced, whereas the OASYS is Unbalanced. So that's an improvement.
CD Burner
ADAT I/O (via EXB-DI option) as well as S/PDIF, vs. only S/PDIF I/O on KRONOS
2 XLR/TRS Combo Jacks that have 2 Mic Pre's, each with Phantom Power switches and gain control as well as 2 TRS 1/4" inputs for a total of 4 inputs altogether. KRONOS only has 2 TRS 1/4" Inputs.
OASYS has the bigger, height-adjustable screen, KRONOS is a smaller screen, but it's a glossy higher resolution display. So that's a trade-off, IMO.
OASYS has the Pads, but KRONOS has USB Class Compliant inputs for things like the Nano-Pad and Nano Kontrol. That's another trade-off and a HUGE one at that, given that you can connect up to 127 USB Devices on a single port. 
And Class Compliant means, ANY USB Device will work as long as its supported by the driver on-board the keyboard. And it doesn't even have to be a Korg Device. I love that! 
I run an M-Audio Keystation Pro 88 and all the Nano-controllers on a USB hub, a hard drive and a 61-Note Novation Impulse on another powered USB hub, leaving at least one port for a thumb drive.
That's pretty huge for me. It works REALLY well and I can assign any Knob, Switch, Slider, Wheel, etc. to any parameter on the KRONOS, as long as I can assign a MIDI CC Parameter to it.
OASYS does have 4 USB Ports, as opposed to only 2 Ports on KRONOS, but because of the Class Compliant USB MIDI Capability, I'd take 2 over 4 ANY day since you can always add USB hubs to add more ports.
KRONOS also adds a B-Type USB Port for full-on DAW Control. The Editor is coming hopefully this month or next month. I saw it in a Musik Messe video, somewhere. Having that in addition to the MIDI In/Out/Thru ports is huge in this day and age.
OASYS is better built, but KRONOS has a really nice build quality to it as well. Kind of takes me back to the M1 and T-Series. It really is a modern-day M1, IMO and I LOVE its look!
But the OASYS has a prestigious look to it that you don't get in KRONOS, part of the reason why I'm NEVER selling my OASYS 88's.
But if I had to choose ONE instrument, it's definitely KRONOS. Internally, with its SSD, the extra Synth Engines, EXs Libraries, KRS Libraries, Drum Track, 480 PPQN Resolution Upgrade in the Sequencer (that ALONE was worth the price tag of KRONOS and its upgrade for me!), faster Dual-Core Processor and all the improvements made to the OS, and DAW Integration coming soon via the Editor, it's a HUGE upgrade to the OASYS.
I now use my OASYS 88's as a DAC, Mastering Processor, Digital Mixer and Master Controller, more than I do as a Workstation nowadays, although I still do use them a LOT in every aspect.
But KRONOS has almost entirely replaced my OASYS 88's as my main Workstation now. I have 4 88's and 4 61's now, and I'm doubling that to be able to load in the new KARO Libraries when I purchase them.
OASYS is now a secondary Workstation, which is what I use to transfer M50, Triton, Tritnity, and Yamaha and Korg Arranger Sequences to add, reassign, or combine sounds before I take them to the DAW.
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| Sina172 wrote: | I have 4 88's and 4 61's now, and I'm doubling that to be able to load in the new KARO Libraries when I purchase them.
OASYS is now a secondary Workstation, which is what I use to transfer M50, Triton, Tritnity, and Yamaha and Korg Arranger Sequences to add, reassign, or combine sounds before I take them to the DAW.
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Sina,
I think everyone is waiting for you to upload some pictures of your hardware.
You claimed earlier you didn't want to give away any details of your new studio out of privacy reasons,
but you should be able to make some pictures of your equipment without giving away any details about your location.
Please mind that I'm not saying you're lying to us (for all we know you might be a millionaire with lots of cash to burn),
but without proof it's getting harder and harder to believe what you write.
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LOL
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| Yuma wrote: | | (for all we know you might be a millionaire with lots of cash to burn) |
If i was a milionaire never in hell would i have a doubbled Synth, never
2 of the same one...what the flock am i gonna do with 4 Oasys?
Are you crazy???
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