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SeedyLee
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| Yuma wrote: |
You claimed earlier you didn't want to give away any details of your new studio out of privacy reasons,
but you should be able to make some pictures of your equipment without giving away any details about your location.der to believe what you write. |
He has said that, but the crazy thing is that he continues to give out ample details in textual form; how much more information will we be able to glean about his location from information given in pictorial form?
For someone who wishes to be so secretive about his locations and arrangement, he sure spends a lot of time bragging about it.
And apart from that: why would anyone need eight Kronii? One person only has two hands. The Beatles made do with a four-track!
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DrpC
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:33 am Post subject: Here's a big question for everyone... |
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Hi, Rich and mates. 
Big question for ya on this topic:
If it's extremely important to somehow replace the missing two phantom-
powered mic preamps from the Oasys for the Kronos:
What is the most reasonable adapter (pro quality with no feedback noise, but under a 100.00)
that can be added to the Kronos to give you phantom power for condenser mics ?
Really need a great solution without having to add a FULL mixing board to use condenser mics for traveling purposes.
Sorry in advance if this has been discussed. Hopefully this is still on topic 
Thanks in advance for all your support to the community!!! |
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SeedyLee
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:44 am Post subject: Re: Here's a big question for everyone... |
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| DrpC wrote: | Hi, Rich and mates.
Big question for ya on this topic:
If it's extremely important to somehow replace the missing two phantom-
powered mic preamps from the Oasys for the Kronos:
What is the most reasonable adapter (pro quality with no feedback noise, but under a 100.00)
that can be added to the Kronos to give you phantom power for condenser mics ?
Really need a great solution without having to add a FULL mixing board to use condenser mics for traveling purposes.
Sorry in advance if this has been discussed. Hopefully this is still on topic
Thanks in advance for all your support to the community!!! |
Hi there,
I think there's plenty of options below $100 that can provide two channels of phantom power.
There's the Australian Monitor PPA2, which runs on AC or battery, and is around $78. I haven't had experience with this particular model, but have used some of their other gear and it has been very robust.
There's a PSC A4812 which is around the $40 mark - single channel, in-line style which is very portable.
Of course, if you're so inclined, such a thing is not difficult to design and build yourself.
Most self-contained phantom power supplies are likely to give you better quality juice than what you'd get from a cheap mixer anyway ...
What sort of mics are you planning on using?
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DrpC
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:25 am Post subject: What a team!!! |
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Thanks, SeedyLee for your quick and detailed response.
Truly appreciated!!! 
I'm planning on using a RODE condenser mic which is around about 200.00.
I also have a USB condenser mic but I can't seem to get it to work out of the box with the Kronos usb port. (Maybe no drivers within the Kronos) 
Does anyone know if an MXL usb condenser mic will work with the Kronos ?
Just trying to get the best pure sound from a condenser mic like it would be with the Oasys
since it's a direct connect without a mixer and having to spend tons of money just for an adapter.
I'm sure as we all are aware of, there is so much equipment - less is better.
Oh, and you don't want me trying to create or build any thing if you value your equipment assets. 
Trust me, it's a very good idea for me to just purchase something from a professional.
Okay, here's a stupid question ... Is "12T" 12 volts in power ?
"The PSC A4812 is an In-Line Barrel Adapter which allows "12T" microphones to be used with mixers which provide 48V phantom power."
Looks like the PSC A4812 which I like more than the
Australian Monitor PPA2 because it's smaller is only 12T ?
I think the RODE might be only 48 in power,
not totally sure and that's exactly why I should not try to build one of these things...
Sorry OP, don't want to get to far off the topic - but thanks for the comparing and sharing everyone!!! |
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DennyC
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:26 am Post subject: |
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Cello, made a really valid point. I was on the fence and almost bought the JP80, as my studio has an Oasys 76. Yes, I love it. It was a very tough decision, but I chose a K61. It is an awesome board. The decider for me was effects processing. With the Kronos I have 12 more insert effects and now the Karo potential. I like the action on the Oasys 76 somewhat better than my Kronos. But I enjoy all the differences mentioned in the previous posts. However, I have to say the JP80 is a great sounding board and I would love to have one someday...but I just purchased a very nice mic and now that dream has to be put in neutral.
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jimiki
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:38 am Post subject: |
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Sina... the cat is out of the box... disclose your gear with pictures....else you can keep claiming that you have this and that which no one will believe you or ask you for suggestion.. 
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Kontrol49
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| jimiki wrote: | | Sina... the cat is out of the box... disclose your gear with pictures....else you can keep claiming that you have this and that which no one will believe you or ask you for suggestion.. |
Another threads been sidelined by his fantasy world of gear
if only he owned half as much equipment as he does bullshit!
Anyone worried about there security or disclosure of such a large equipment stash wouldn't brag about it so openly,and even less so,given he supposedly had his Oasys stolen....Wouldn't that have given you reservations about claiming to have this or that.
I may be a Gear slut,but I don't lift up my skirt to everyone who's interested in synths,but I'm happy to post up a couple of pics of my studio,most of us no matter how little or endowed a setup we have will have some form of pictures of our studio setups,you'll never see pictures of what Sina owns because its all in his Head!!!A fantasy thought of his,much like that Oasys he was going to buy in another thread!!
Don't know why people still give this Full of s**t idiot sina airtime!!!!he talks crap and always will.
The only multiples of anything he owns are two brain cells
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xmlguy
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Kronik
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I've unfortunately been on the sharp end of Sina's tongue before. so I take anything he say's with a pot of salt.... This is someone who claims he put a 500GB SATA SDD into an IDE equiped Oasys.
Get a clue Man
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Kevin Nolan
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| SeedyLee wrote: | | Kevin Nolan wrote: |
As an aside, I gave a demonstration on synthesis to a 4th year College AV degree class last week. Side by side I had a Moog LP (which I very much like) and a Monotribe. It's the first time I put the Monotribe through a (very high quality) PA and it was absolutely magnificent. In my opinion, its core sound was stronger than that of the LP. If only Korg would put a keyboard on that synth engine - then you'd have THE perfect playable instrument to go with your Kronos. But in earnest - to shake it up - look at a monotribe.
Kevin. |
A little off-topic: not sure if you're aware, but it's relatively trivial to add a MIDI input to the Monotribe that allows control from a regular MIDI controller. |
Yes - I'm aware of that. But I don't feel inclined to open my Monotribe, solder new components into it and having a MIDI cable dangling from the unit.
It'd be wonderful if Korg offered a similar upgrade, however, with the MIDI port on the side wall of the unit.
There's a precedent for this - Moog have recently offered three "return to factory" upgrades for the Little Phatty, one which involved adding Control Voltage sockets on the side of the synth and requiring holes to be drilled in the side panel. I sent mine to HHB in the UK (a Moog distributor) and it worked out very well. I was prepared to pay for the parts and labour.
If Korg offered a similar return to factory (or authorised Korg repair centre) MIDI option for the Monotribe, it would surely be an extremely attractive option to many?
Back on topic -
To the original poster - I'd suggest that very few players use multiple hardware outputs and are not a central requirement (IMO); while even the features offered by the OASYS drum pads are now achievable with incredibly cheap and often better options - especially now that Rich points out the nano series can be connected in.
The one exception for this, however, is the availability of an ADAT option for the OASYS, offering 8 digital outs and very useful - on occasion - when you need pristine separate outs. But even there, in all my years of using the OASYS - I've only called upon that option for one and only one job.
In my opinion, stability of hardware control surface not withstanding and which are hopefully now largely in the past for Kronos, the OASYS extra hardware and port facilities are nice to have - but not features that would make or break a purchase. The added sonic features of the Kronos are more than good enough reason to consider even a 2nd Kronos over buying a Kronos and OASYS. As said, I'm an OASYS user (I actually own two - one as a backup) so I adore this instrument - but the Kronos added features, and even what it lacks physically, make it surely the more attractive option - every time.
Kevin.
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SeedyLee
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| Kronik wrote: | I've unfortunately been on the sharp end of Sina's tongue before. so I take anything he say's with a pot of salt.... This is someone who claims he put a 500GB SATA SDD into an IDE equiped Oasys.
Get a clue Man |
A quote from another forum:
| sina172 wrote: | | We become what we think about! We are living in a belief driven universe. Your beliefs create your reality. And ALL your beliefs are in your subconscious mind! |
Source: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2294919-50-000-REWARD-for-Stolen-OASYS&p=34013672&viewfull=1#post34013672
This ethos perhaps explains where he is coming from.
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SeedyLee
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| Kevin Nolan wrote: |
Yes - I'm aware of that. But I don't feel inclined to open my Monotribe, solder new components into it and having a MIDI cable dangling from the unit.
It'd be wonderful if Korg offered a similar upgrade, however, with the MIDI port on the side wall of the unit.
Kevin. |
Great, just wanted to make sure you were aware the option is available. I am planning to modify mine. For some reason, I feel more inclined to modify the Monotribe than I do my Monotron, perhaps because my Monotron was a gift and I like it's analogue simplicity.
When I do modify my Monotribe, I plan on using a 3.5mm TRS plug for the MIDI connection, with a customer adoptor cable. I've opened it up, and it will be much easier to add than a full 5-pin DIN socket, and will fir the aesthetic much better.
Indicidentally, you mentioned the sound quality through a high quality PA. I've found the very fast envelopes produce a very noticable click when triggering that severely inhibit the audio quality, what's been your experience?
Might be better to take this conversation to another thread
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Kevin Nolan
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| SeedyLee wrote: | | Kevin Nolan wrote: |
Yes - I'm aware of that. But I don't feel inclined to open my Monotribe, solder new components into it and having a MIDI cable dangling from the unit.
It'd be wonderful if Korg offered a similar upgrade, however, with the MIDI port on the side wall of the unit.
Kevin. |
Great, just wanted to make sure you were aware the option is available. I am planning to modify mine. For some reason, I feel more inclined to modify the Monotribe than I do my Monotron, perhaps because my Monotron was a gift and I like it's analogue simplicity.
When I do modify my Monotribe, I plan on using a 3.5mm TRS plug for the MIDI connection, with a customer adoptor cable. I've opened it up, and it will be much easier to add than a full 5-pin DIN socket, and will fir the aesthetic much better.
Indicidentally, you mentioned the sound quality through a high quality PA. I've found the very fast envelopes produce a very noticable click when triggering that severely inhibit the audio quality, what's been your experience?
Might be better to take this conversation to another thread |
SeedyLee - that's a good idea re the MIDI connector. I might consider taht myslef - noce one.
Re. the envelopes I didn't notice to be honest. I demoed numerous synths and synth types over the two hours (including providing theoretical material on subtractive, FM, sampling, virtual acoustics and elastic audio) so I didn't have time to concentrate on such finer points of the Monotribe operation.
What was so obvious through the system was that it's oscillators are _so_ strong, it's filter is absolutely magnificent (and the Q self-resonance equally amazing) while the LFO options are simply out of this world. This is a special effects box of incredible range as it stands.
If only Korg had offered the option to switch off or turn down the volumn of the oscillator section, to allow the filter Q self-resonance to be the only audio source! That would enhance the Monotribe's usefullness at an altogether different level.
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Sina172
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| BasariStudios wrote: | | Yuma wrote: | | (for all we know you might be a millionaire with lots of cash to burn) |
If i was a milionaire never in hell would i have a doubbled Synth, never
2 of the same one...what the flock am i gonna do with 4 Oasys?
Are you crazy??? |
Dr. Dre has FIVE MPC-3000's in his studio. FIVE! The first 4 have a different pallet of drum samples assigned to the pads and he has instant access to them, every time he turns them on. The 5th one is the hub for the first 4 where he uses the internal sequencer to make his drum tracks before he takes it all into ProTools. I've never met him or been to his studio, by the way. I met a guy who works with him a couple of years back and he told me what he had in the studio.
In my case, each KRONOS and OASYS has a different pallet of Programs and Combis that I have direct access to, without having to load in anything. It's much more elaborate than what Dr. Dre has, I admit that but it works for me and I could never go back to having just one of anything anymore.
And Korg's file system isn't exactly a joy to work with, to be honest. The SECOND you load in a PCG file and you modify ONE thing in Program Combi, or Global mode, you have modified the PCG file internally and unless you backup the current PCG file FIRST, BEFORE you load in a different one, you lose everything you have done to the internal PCG file, rendering all your edits and modifications for nothing.
It's a pain in the ass to work with, and with SO FEW Program and Combi Banks that I am constantly tweaking and modifying, losing them is a horror I couldn't even BARE to imagine. When you have more than one Trinity, Triton, KRONOS, or OASYS, you can dedicate each one to a specific pallet of sounds, that you would not have in the other one and now you have direct access to those programs and combis without having to load them in anymore. On the surface, it looks redundant, but internally, it's anything BUT redundant. You only have so much RAM in each one, and with the Autoload feature only allowing to be loaded into RAM and not having the option to stream samples from the SSD, 3.25GB becomes really limited, especially when you consider how huge some of the KARO libraries are.
Here's an even bigger advantage to having 2 or more:
If you pair them up via MIDI and you go to Global Mode, you can set one to respond only to Even Notes, and the other one only to Odd Notes. Now you have literally DOUBLED your Polyphony and resources. I NEVER run out of notes anymore because of it. Same thing with my OASYS 88's.
Even my M50 88's which are used as scratch pads, are configured this way.
I just can't wait for the KRONOS editor so I can finally integrate them with my DAW.
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Kontrol49
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Feature wise,theres nothing that really stands out enough to replace the Oasys I have and purchase the Kronos,not in the immediate future.
It would be interesting to see those that already have the O and have bought a Kronos what they see the benefits of having them side by side are.
I'd like to purchase a 73 note Kronos a little down the line,as a replacement gig board for the Oasys,hoping to pick one up towards the end of its production at a lower price perhaps,even though my Oasys stands up well,I would like to protect its heritage and build(even though I look after it)and simplt resign it to stay in the studio.
I also like the fact that Korg have made a more portable Piano type grade board in the 73, without the full weight and construction of an 88,one thing I love about the SV-1-73 its portable and not overbearing for Live work(and is only a little bit wider than a standard 61 key TEX workstation,I've been using live too,I know the Kronos 73 has the addition of the Joystick etc,but it not that much more wider hopefully once the teething problems with the RH3 have been fully ironed out completely I will consider it and finally retire the Oasys for static use only in the studio |
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