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[apex]

I'm trying to make room for my Legendary Strings Library and I wanted to get some help with some things...

I'm trying to decide what I can and can't unload and still be able to function normally (in my setup)

Can I unload all the mono samples and keep the stereo ones?

What's the purpose of BOTH of them being loaded at the same time?

I'm noticing in several libraries that both are mono and stereo samples are loaded (for the same library.... actually all of them) lol
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Kronos-88,M3-M(Radias,EXB-M256), Yamaha Motif XF 7,Roland XV-5080 Xpanded SRX SRJV,
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Apple Mac Book Pro (Late 2009 Model,8GB Ram, 2.8 Ghz), Logic Pro 9.1.3, Abelton Live 8.1, Reason 5,Recycle,Audacity,Kore 2,Mainstage 2, Philharmonik,NI K6,ReFX Nexus,Alchemy, Rapture,Sample Tank 2.5,Sonic Synth 2,Korg Legacy Col.
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KRK Rokit 8 Monitors,Hartke KM200 (keyboard amp)
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[apex]

after further review and much deliberation...

it's going to be quite a difficult decision to use the Legendary Strings along side any other data that you want loaded....

it takes up significantly more RAM than any other library or sample data that I currently have. The entire library is only 2.4 gb or so... but the String library takes up a whopping 702MB of RAM space.... while this doesn't seem like much use this as a comparison:

EXs6 German Grand 3.6GB but only takes up 213MB of RAM
EXs7 Japanese Grand 3.8GB but only takes up 140MB of RAM
EXs9 Jazz Ambiance Drums 663MB but only takes up 134MB of RAM (this one seems to have a high ratio as well)

The Legendary Strings take up a lot of space compared to the Piano engines.... I wonder why? if it was even comparable in size (RAM), I think I could make it work with what I'm already auto-loading... but in the state that it's in, I'll have to make significant adjustments to my auto-load file.

As is, my auto-load file leaves me with 374MB free. There are either parts or all of libraries: 1,3,5-10, 12 & 13, plus I have a soundfont loaded that's about 274MB as well.

As I state, significant changes to the autoload file will have to take place in order for me to be able to use Legendary Strings with any of my data that's already in place. When I say significant, I mean like maybe ALL 3 pianos, plus maybe one of the drum samples sets JUST TO LOAD THE STRINGS...(that's how drastic it could be...)

I think this could make for quite an interested conversation and maybe help out some people other than myself. I'm sure with all these goodies that are available, I am probably not the only one that's starting to run into this problem.

Thoughts, comments, suggestions?

Thanks.
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SYNTHS:
Kronos-88,M3-M(Radias,EXB-M256), Yamaha Motif XF 7,Roland XV-5080 Xpanded SRX SRJV,
COMPUTER STUFF:
Apple Mac Book Pro (Late 2009 Model,8GB Ram, 2.8 Ghz), Logic Pro 9.1.3, Abelton Live 8.1, Reason 5,Recycle,Audacity,Kore 2,Mainstage 2, Philharmonik,NI K6,ReFX Nexus,Alchemy, Rapture,Sample Tank 2.5,Sonic Synth 2,Korg Legacy Col.
SPEAKERS:
KRK Rokit 8 Monitors,Hartke KM200 (keyboard amp)
MIXER/INTERFACE:
Mackie Onyx 1620i

[cello]

Hate to mention the OASYS word again, but this kind of problem has existed for a while in the O community.

Even with 4Gb RAM in the Kronos (O had 2Gb max), it is simply not possible to buy ALL available libraries (Korg, Karo, Irish Acts, whoever) and have them ALL load on startup.

So how I (and other O users) got round this issue is by having a project basis for loading sample/sound files I need. I have folders with project-named PCG/KSCs which I load up when required.

Once you get your own system it will work well for you - but not as neatly as if all libraries were loadable on startup!
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[michelkeijzers]

It would be nice if the PCG file contained information what sample libraries to load ... so when a complete PCG file would be loaded in Kronos it automatically loaded the samples.
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[apex]

[michelkeijzers]

It's not possible to save sample data within a PCG file, but maybe with the same name (like XXX.KSC and XXX.PCG?)
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[michelkeijzers]

[DennyC]

Do any of you guys know how much ram the Karo Unison Strings takes up?
That might be another direction to go.
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[apex]

In my honest opinion, I think it's crazy tat no matter how much someone gives, the other party always wants more....

When I had my fantom g and its 1gb of ram I made due (really didn't use much of it), but I thought that 2gb would be plenty. Maybe it's because of what was available at the time.

Now I've got 3gb available and it's not enough.... Korg Yamaha Roland can't ever win in this regard. So you can't really blame them. I'm just greedy I guess.

There is just so much available now, that it makes it harder to choose.

But you have to give up a lot just for the strings....I understand if it's got to be larger....but 702mb is quite a bit compared to the others...

Korg can you suggest something?
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SYNTHS:
Kronos-88,M3-M(Radias,EXB-M256), Yamaha Motif XF 7,Roland XV-5080 Xpanded SRX SRJV,
COMPUTER STUFF:
Apple Mac Book Pro (Late 2009 Model,8GB Ram, 2.8 Ghz), Logic Pro 9.1.3, Abelton Live 8.1, Reason 5,Recycle,Audacity,Kore 2,Mainstage 2, Philharmonik,NI K6,ReFX Nexus,Alchemy, Rapture,Sample Tank 2.5,Sonic Synth 2,Korg Legacy Col.
SPEAKERS:
KRK Rokit 8 Monitors,Hartke KM200 (keyboard amp)
MIXER/INTERFACE:
Mackie Onyx 1620i

[apex]

[cello]

[DennyC]

Hey Apex, great commentary. I would have addressed the mono, stereo thing but I haven't loaded them up. I apologize as I was not trying to change the subject but just injecting the possibility that if the Karo used a lot less of the ram, that might be the direction for you to go. In that way, you wouldn't have to unload some of the stuff you like right now and still have quality strings. After listening to both sample sets, I came to the conclusion that they are both high quality, great sounding programs and that either one of them would work for me.

I have been leery, of using up the ram with the previous offerings. So I have passed on stuff that I would have normally purchased. The reason I suggested the Karo set(besides equivalent quality) is that I bought the Austrian piano, and one of the Karo tape libraries(which used a comparatively small amount of ram) and I have 828 mb of ram left, so I think I will have a 100+mb of ram left if I get the Legendary strings. If that is enough ram to comfortably operate then I will have to accept that. I am of a similar mindset that I like to have everything I've purchased be available at startup. Obviously, if I get the Legendary strings that will be the whole enchilada for my Kronos.

But on the good side, I have a fully loaded Oasys to fall back on.
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[apex]

You can check the mono stereo thing with even the factory stuff.
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SYNTHS:
Kronos-88,M3-M(Radias,EXB-M256), Yamaha Motif XF 7,Roland XV-5080 Xpanded SRX SRJV,
COMPUTER STUFF:
Apple Mac Book Pro (Late 2009 Model,8GB Ram, 2.8 Ghz), Logic Pro 9.1.3, Abelton Live 8.1, Reason 5,Recycle,Audacity,Kore 2,Mainstage 2, Philharmonik,NI K6,ReFX Nexus,Alchemy, Rapture,Sample Tank 2.5,Sonic Synth 2,Korg Legacy Col.
SPEAKERS:
KRK Rokit 8 Monitors,Hartke KM200 (keyboard amp)
MIXER/INTERFACE:
Mackie Onyx 1620i

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