| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Would you buy Karma 3 for Kronos? |
| YES |
|
87% |
[ 115 ] |
| NO |
|
12% |
[ 17 ] |
|
| Total Votes : 132 |
|
| Author |
Message |
miden Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2008 Posts: 1690 Location: Australia
|
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:33 pm Post subject: PETITION KORG POLL for KARMA 3 for KRONOS |
|
|
Hi all, I want to establish this poll so we can petition Korg to re-negotiate a new licencing deal with Stephen Kay so that Kronos owners can get Karma 3.
I think it preferable to keep ALL personal opinions and ideas and other "wishings" out of the thread, all we really need are votes - and LOTS of them!!
If you want to post comments that are "encouraging" to Korg or you think can help persuade them, then I think that is fine
I am not suggesting it is free, but if it is priced at around the same as the Yamaha Motif version of Karma 3 then that would be fair. (I seem to recall reading somewhere on the Karma Forums that the suggested price for Motif Karma was about $160? USD - perhaps SK or someone could confirm this?)
Can you all please PLEASE support this as Karma 3 is totally amazing and "eats" Karma 2.5!! which is, as I understand it, the highest version Korg have licenced.
Last edited by miden on Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:18 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
arne v Full Member

Joined: 23 Aug 2011 Posts: 105 Location: oslo
|
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
hi and thank you for informing us about Karma 3.0
I had no idea it was taken to a new level, but whether or not ill get it depends on the price tag that comes with it and if its external or internal (kronos)
If its like u said that Korg has a license for karma 2.5 then i guess its an external program like the one for Yamaha. I do not think i would upgrade until i can wrap my head around how Karma works internally in the Kronos. I think i would buy the "karma kronos software" first to learn more about "karma". My next kronos project is exactly this.
BUT... as much i would like to have Karma 3 in my kronos i do not think Mr Kay would do this for free. I think he is a business man as well as a genius programmer
[darn typo]
[additional]
After watching the youtube clip im confused..namm 2011 (???) its like a year ago and the kronos is from july/august 2011?
note to self: keep up with important musical news..
Last edited by arne v on Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:03 pm; edited 2 times in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
SoundsOfPlanet Full Member

Joined: 13 Feb 2012 Posts: 217
|
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Oscar for Stephen Kay for KARMA ------Our Korg gained 100% functional _________________ Korg Kronos /Korg Extreme and Moss
http://www.soundsofplanet.com/
one Man -one Kronos- and new sounds by Sounds of Planet |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Francois Platinum Member

Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 4321 Location: Northants - UK
|
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:46 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Not having a Motif, I have not paid attention to Karma 3. What has it got compared with Karma 2.5 ?
Before voting, it would be useful to know what you would be voting for. Is there a Karma 2.5 vs 3.0 comparison anywhere ? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Sharp Site Admin

Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 15928 Location: Ireland
|
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I'm going to make this a Sticky Topic for a while...... |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Sharp Site Admin

Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 15928 Location: Ireland
|
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Francois wrote: | Not having a Motif, I have not paid attention to Karma 3. What has it got compared with Karma 2.5 ?
Before voting, it would be useful to know what you would be voting for. Is there a Karma 2.5 vs 3.0 comparison anywhere ? |
Have a look at this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD8cdxxEJkI&feature=player_embedded
It's way more advanced....
Sort of like all the benifits of KARMA and an Arranger in one, plus way more.
Regards
Sharp. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
cello Platinum Member

Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Posts: 2108 Location: Glasgow, UK
|
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:56 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Yamaha may have negotiated exclusive rights to v3 KARMA - particularly feasible given that Korg don't have it already on the K and neither party is suggesting it's an option.
I do hope the relationship is an ongoing one (korg/Kay). _________________ Plugged in: Jupiter-80, V-Synth GTv2, XV5050, SRV330, Symphony Module, ER mk2, D3200, iMS20, iPolysix, Alesis M1 Active Mk2
www.soundcloud.com/ngowans
Repository of Sound |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
SoundsOfPlanet Full Member

Joined: 13 Feb 2012 Posts: 217
|
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:04 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The power of Korg: Kronos, Oasys, M3, M50, etc - that 50% of the Karma. _________________ Korg Kronos /Korg Extreme and Moss
http://www.soundsofplanet.com/
one Man -one Kronos- and new sounds by Sounds of Planet |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Sina172 Platinum Member

Joined: 29 May 2007 Posts: 1262 Location: Los Angeles, CA USA
|
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
YES!
PROVIDED that they include the GE-Editor ON-BOARD the instrument itself!
The Japanese really need to wake up, here. They screwed up the Audio Editor and made it completely pointless to have one.
The lack of an on-board GE-Editor on KRONOS is my ONLY gripe.
Give us that with KARMA 2 or 3, and I'll be satisfied beyond belief.
Sina _________________ OASYS 88 #001602
http://www.myspace.com/sinasmusic2
Email: sinasmusic@gmail.com |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
miden Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2008 Posts: 1690 Location: Australia
|
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| cello wrote: | Yamaha may have negotiated exclusive rights to v3 KARMA - particularly feasible given that Korg don't have it already on the K and neither party is suggesting it's an option.
I do hope the relationship is an ongoing one (korg/Kay). |
AKAIK, there are no "exclusive rights" whatsoever for K3...SK has done it all off his own bat. I believe all Yamaha have provided is sysex data and other propietary data so he can get to run on a Yamaha.
The downside for Yammie users is that you MUST have a PC on stage connected to the Motif to use it.
I do not believe this would be necessary on a Kronos as all the control mappings seem to be all pretty much already in the Korg OS...
A PC would be needed (unless Korg re-write a bit of OS code) to allow the 16 scene selection options available on Karma 3, and the Karma for Kronos PC editor...
Being a novice to Karma, this is stuff I am only making "guess-timates" about only, but based around some logic and initial use. Plus I was looking at a Karma for M50 package and trialling it ages ago on a PC.
Anyway it's a good response so far, so let's really send a "message" to Korg!!!!  |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
StephenKay KARMA Developer

Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 1769 Location: Westfield, NJ
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
miden Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2008 Posts: 1690 Location: Australia
|
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:01 am Post subject: |
|
|
Thanks for the link SK...it is looking sooooo good!!!!!
Seriously guys, I really have to STRONGLY recommend everyone check this out!!!!
Spectacular!!! I reckon anyone who votes no, has NOT seen this vid!! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
miden Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2008 Posts: 1690 Location: Australia
|
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:15 am Post subject: |
|
|
over 186 views and only 28 people can bother to simply put a check in the box??!!!!
If you take the time to check the thread, please take an extra second to place a vote.....it is pretty clear in the title, so obviously people looking have SOME interest in Karma..... |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
QuiRobinez Platinum Member

Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 1182 Location: Netherlands
|
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:13 am Post subject: |
|
|
| StephenKay wrote: | Actually, I finally released my own video a few weeks ago that gives a pretty good overview:
KARMA Motif Video Introduction
...even though the software is not yet released, but it's getting really close.
I'll try to explain a bit more about the relationships involved a little later... |
Wow, Stephen, that really a big step forward in the KARMA possibilities, i love the new intro and fill approach. _________________
Soundset links: ElectroPhoretic | SpectraKinematics | AnalogHypnotics | Harmony Keys |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
zengomi Full Member
Joined: 06 Oct 2011 Posts: 107 Location: Tokyo
|
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
| miden wrote: | over 186 views and only 28 people can bother to simply put a check in the box??!!!!
If you take the time to check the thread, please take an extra second to place a vote.....it is pretty clear in the title, so obviously people looking have SOME interest in Karma..... |
I think the views count includes people who were not logged in. The only way to vote is when you're logged in. Thus the discrepancy.
I voted "yes"! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|