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miden · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:31 pm Post subject:

No Not true...If I edit a midi file in Sonar using the Motif XS for example then re-save the midi file... ALL patch changes are automatically saved

You should check the MIDI spec...when a midi file is edited it is saved AS EDITED

miden · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:34 pm Post subject:

And the GM reset is a command that has to be MANUALLY insterted into a midi file...it is NOT automatic. Just the same as an XG command (Yamaha) or GS command (Roland) needs to be manually inserted..

m8, I have been working with midi files and keyboards using sequencers and Cakewalk/ then Sonar since 1989.....I have used ALL brands of keyboards apart from Korgs...my first Korg was the PA1xPro...but Korg Italy have a much different approach to the Sequencer Mode and are more faithful to the MIDI concepts and protocols than Korg Japan/US - better in MANY ways!!!

QuiRobinez · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:37 pm Post subject:

Miden, people are just trying to help. If everyone says something different than you think i think it should be wise to try the solutions they give you.
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QuiRobinez · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:00 pm Post subject:

ok i've spent 2 minutes trying this.

- i've downloaded a midi file from the internet
- started the song and the program changes were applied
- then i removed the program changes from the midi file with the event filter (this is not korg only, i also have to do this on the motif or in cubase or every other synth i've used in my live for midi files)
- then i applied new programs and saved the SEQ file
- then i initialised the song so that it was empty and loaded the SEQ file

As expected, it worked perfectly.

The only bug here is that you don't listen to the tips people give you. Just remove the program changes from the midi file. That's all you have to do, and that is NORMAL behaviour for midi. Because program changes are used to change programs on a specific midi channel during the song. This has nothing to do with the initialisation of a file (even if it looks like that when starting the song).
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miden · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:04 pm Post subject:

Yes I have found that that works too...but it is a three step process to do it...there is no option to apply this to all tracks...if you have a midi with 15 tracks of data it will take a long time JUST to get it ready to edit!!!!!

I must admit I always do my midi editing on a PC DAW Sequencer, and let me tell you it IS the standard way. The patch is automatically over-written when the file is saved. There is NO need to pre-delete anything

This is a glaring example of why PC Sequencers are far superior in some respects to keyboard based ones.

QuiRobinez · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject:

QuiRobinez · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:08 pm Post subject:

miden · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:15 pm Post subject:

QuiRobinez · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:19 pm Post subject:

miden · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:29 pm Post subject:

Sound, and the weighted keybed.

My only mistake was assuming the sequencer on the Kronos would be the same as on the Korg PA series....The PA seq operates more in the standard midi way of doing things, whereas the Kronos is a bit more "proprietary" for lack of a better term.

It has many MANY great operational features which I WILL use - it is just some of these basic things, that in operation, I take for granted will work in the standard and usual manner.

This exercise has highlighted that the Korg Japan sequencer is different to just about anything else out there. I will need to remember that some of the simple tasks could actually be multi-step arcane procedures...

I suppose I will get used to it...

I should point out that I am not working on just one midi file...I am talking about the conversion of a tad over 400 files...so yeah, every step I can save, saves me a LOT of time!!!

And that is not to also mention all the MP3 tracks I am going to have to convert over to wav files - and to then try and fit it all in the 14 gig left on the hard drive...together with any new samples or instruments I might want to buy and load....

Anyway...this is another thing sorted, although I still think it is a silly process.

QuiRobinez · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:47 pm Post subject:

miden · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:07 pm Post subject:

Yeah thanks, I appreciate you mean well so all good, but I already realise all of that...and yes I I know about batch operations - I have an app called GN MIDI which does a lot of that work, and I had already done a batch PC removal operation...maybe I will do it again just to be sure...

As for the MP3 issue - I still don't understand why Korg Japan/US won't write in MP3 capability into the OS, when Korg Italy have had it for well over a decade!!!

But that's the way it is....

I will probably look at replacing the SSD...although I think there is a hardware cradle already installed inside the Kronos which would take another hard drive...we'll see how the space works out...might not be an issue at all in the end....

Cheers

Shakil · Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:52 am Post subject:

Shakil · Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:54 am Post subject:

miden · Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:09 am Post subject:

Hi Shakil,
Yes I am using the ins file for the Kronos Smile

thanks though....
I will double check on the option in settings though...it may ahve slipped through the cracks, so to speak..