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Looking to make a few sounds HELP!

 
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VEA



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:54 am    Post subject: Looking to make a few sounds HELP! Reply with quote

I'm looking to make a few sounds on my microkorg and any help would be awesome!

The first sound is called the Vowel sound.
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqiwtd3_GcI
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpzkOjqYf0E

My second sound is this one:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifOVWXKvLrQ

The Third sound(s) im looking to make are the synths from Suffocation by Crystal castles:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugw3ARV4X9g

The Fourth sound(s) im looking to make are basically any song by M83 but ill give a few examples:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU6TB8jet-Q
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzge5vY72hE&feature=related

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Im looking for anyone that can direct me in the right direction or even show me a patch to make any of these sounds. Any help would be appreciated a lot!

I have a microkorg, electribe emx, and a kp3 so if that broadens my capabilities to make the sounds then please let me know.

Im also looking for any tips on how to run my microkorg through my electribe and be able to use the electribe to edit my output. (if possible)

THANKS! Very Happy
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thehighesttree
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NOTE: I'm gonna assume you're just getting started on synthesis with your MicroKorg. I only have the R3 - the next-gen big brudda of the original microkorg, but here's a lesson so we can both learn how the MicroKorg works...

Vowel sound: Look in the OSCILLATOR section and find the one...I think it's called "human voice" on the microkorg but it could also be called "Formant"...you'll see it, it's right in with saw, square, triangle, etc. but it might help to use the software editor (never edited a microkorg patch, sorry). Anyways, this is a waveform that--when you cycle through its shape variable--goes through the A_E_I_O_U vowel sounds. What you've gotta do now is figure out a way to get a modulator (either the EG or LFO) to edit the shaping variable for this vowel waveform over time. You will NEED to use a virtual patch to route a modulator to the wave variable, so better learn how those work. This'll make it so when, for example, you hit a key, it can go "EEEAOOW" or "AAAAEUUUU" or any kind of vowel sound, depending on how you offset it and how the modulator changes it over time.

To sum up: make sure you're comfortable with Virtual Patching...this'll be the most important thing you can learn from this. Let's say you want your voice to go "waoowaoowaoow". You'll need have a sine or triangle LFO as the patch SOURCE and make the DESTINATION that waveform variable, with the P.Int (patch intensity) set to...max, I guess. Set the LFO rate to whatver you want and it should make all kinds of WAAAOWAAOW noise.

Does that make sense? If you can do what I said above then you're well underway to understanding your synth's guts. If it looks like a bunch of technical jargon, don't sweat it: just try to figure out what you can and post some more questions about it. My explanation's not the greatest either. Leave any questions. The rest of the sounds are up to you.


EDIT: One last thing: your EMX is based on the same engine as the MicroKorg, but it lays most of the same stuff out in front of you...the big difference being that most things are condensed into each other on the Electribe. Good learning tool.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking to make a few sounds HELP! Reply with quote

VEA wrote:

My second sound is this one:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifOVWXKvLrQ


Uh, press the Show More button on the video. The author has given the patch right there.

VEA wrote:
The Third sound(s) im looking to make are the synths from Suffocation by Crystal castles:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugw3ARV4X9g

The Fourth sound(s) im looking to make are basically any song by M83 but ill give a few examples:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU6TB8jet-Q
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzge5vY72hE&feature=related


The right direction to push you is towards having you actually learn how your synthesizer works. That requires research and effort. It doesn't come without work. Many synth sounds are easy. Some of the sounds you hear on those tracks are impossible to do on Microkorg. You didn't really expect a $200 synth to be able to reproduce every synth that you wanted to play, right? The Microkorg is great for the price, but it has its limits. Until you learn what it can do, then you won't know what it can't do. But it's great to have certain sounds in mind that you want to reproduce because that gives you a goal to work hard to learn synthesis. Having people "show you" the patch doesn't really help you learn synthesis unless you take the time to learn what all those settings do to change the sound of the patch. So, you can use the patch settings in the video that I pointed out for you to start learning. Don't just plug in the numbers and stop. Download the manual and learn what the settings do by playing with each one to hear what it sounds like.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xmlguy knows his stuff and couldn't be more right. Basically, the guy who made those sounds could step in here himself and list all the values used in each variable to make the exact sound--basically give you the roadmap--but you still probably wouldn't be able to make much use of that without understanding how stuff interacts in the synth.

You're gonna have to set aside at least an hour or so, get the software patch editor running with the synth attached, initialize a patch (clear one you don't like to make a new one from scratch) and try to follow the instructions I've provided. If you haven't already, make sure you read through the owner's manual (yeah, the whole thing) and keep it with you for reference.

I haven't listened to all the links you provided, but I'm absolutely certain you can make a good copy of the "vowel voice" sound you posted. If you take the time to learn programming then you can make whatever sound you want and--as xml said--find out what is and isn't possible on the MicroKorg.

Evil or Very Mad (rant time) Twisted Evil

I've met people who own these things and have never even tried editing them, and frankly I think they're complete chumps. Why anyone would spend $200+ on a box they barely use to its potential? It's like buying a weed whacker to pull dead leaves from the flower box in your 7th-floor apartment. I guess the presets on that $50 Casio weren't good enough for them, but come on...

...it's like fronting like a sex god and not knowing what a clit is, is what it is. Don't be that guy.
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