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[Tha_chosen_1]

Hi everybody.. I recently had a friend show me some instrumentals that he's been producing off His Triton.. And i noticed on some of them he would have an instrument that would have a (crescendo) effect like a brass instrument,synth.. Etc.. It really stood out to me because he used it so well.. I went home and tried to mess with my effects off my M3.. Even busted out the manuel and read up on the effects but for some reason couldnt figure it out.. If somebody has an idea on what im talking about please share .. Thanks

[SanderXpander]

He was probably using the Sfz Brass, there should be a similar patch in the M3. In any case, it would not be made with the FX but with EG settings (filter or amp), or just by automating the volume (since you said it was in a song).

[apex]

INT-D 015 SFZ Brass

Hit the notes hard... the programming does the rest.

Let me know if this is what you were looking for.
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[r12]

in many brass programs you can use the ribbon to recreate sforzando effect

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[billbaker]

The learning moment (aha!)... the crux of what you're wanting is AMS (alternate modulation source) which allows you to use a variable parameter to change the response of some aspect of the sound.

If you wanted you could use a variable parameter like velocity (variable because you can play hard or soft) to generate a range of values (1-127). Normally that range affects only amp (loudness) and in only one direction (low->high loudness for low->high values).

But you could use that same controller (velocity) to generate a range of values (1-127) that can also control many other aspects of a program's sound -- in either direction -- so you could open or close a cutoff filter or crossfade between two layered sounds within a program... and lots of other stuff.

How do you find an AMS? Look for (src) [source] and (amt) [amount or value range] tags in edit menus. There are a couple of AMS opportunities built into almost every Effect, if only in the ratio between wet and dry.

So, using velocity as our example, if we start with a 100% wet value for reverb and assign the AMS to velocity with a range of -80 (minus value) then as velocity value goes up the reverb would get dryer -- ranging from a wet mix as you played softly (low velocity = less reduction) to a minimum value for reverb (20%) at your maximum velocity (127 = -80).

[A is to B as X is to Y - ratios - your math teacher was right... you will still need to know this stuff after junior high]

Source will give you a pull-down menu of "value" generating contollers, some of which are simple (pedal is only on/off), user nuanced (velocity depends on your playing), or automatic (LFO - low frequency oscillator - can "automate" such things as filter sweeps or vibrato). Choose the one that works best.



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[Tha_chosen_1]

Ok so i started messing with the AMP EGS and AMS till i figured out how i liked it.. But to further my knowledge whats the difference between the two?? I went to p4:Amp/Eq and saw many tabs on the bottom AMP 1 MOD, AMP EG, within the AMP EG's tab have soo many more options it had my head spinning.. I basically wanted to learn how to preform a Crescendo and now all this.. aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!! Filter EG's!!!!! Aaaaahhhhh!!!

[SanderXpander]

For a fixed type of crescendo like in the Sfz Brass patch, the AMP EG and filter EG are easiest. Amp controls volume, filter controls brightness. The volume is obviously the main thing in a crescendo but letting the filter follow a bit can make it sound much more natural. Each EG has a little graph to show you what's going on. If you want to control the speed/length of the crescendo yourself, might I suggest simply using a foot pedal?