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cynkh Platinum Member
Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Posts: 526 Location: Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:47 pm Post subject: KRONOS and KLC MS-20 USB Controller |
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Has anybody had occasion to connect a KLC MS-20 USB controller to the Kronos yet? I'm curious if this is supported and if so whether it's mapped automatically to the MS-20EX and the patch points work as expected. If so I'll definitely be procuring a controller for exactly this purpose!
Thanks! _________________ - cynkh -
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jaggeddoctrine
Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 37
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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I just plugged up my KLC MS-20 USB and VCO, filters, envelope generators were all working. I have not used the synth in a while, so I need to get my patch cords out of storage and hook them up to test the cords...but so far, everything was working.
(Note.. i've only tried it on a single EXI program. haven't checked to see what happens when you have 2 MS20 EXIs on on program.)
I'll post again once I get my cords out and try them _________________ Kronos 61, Alesis Fusion 6HD, Korg Legacy Collection, NI Komplete 8, NI Kore 2, Arturia Moog V Original |
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jaggeddoctrine
Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 37
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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I got my cords and hooked them into the ms20 controller. They appear to not affect anything. So, unless there is a way to turn them on within the program, I'd say they will not work with 1.5.
Of note, while making changes on the ms20 controller, the corresponding knobs on the screen do not change. So, while I am changing the vco or filter (etc), i can hear the changes, but not see that I am changing it on the Kronos screen.
I've tried a few programs, but the Modulation Generator seems to not be working..
Many of the knobs work on Polysix, AL1, and MOD7 as well.
Also, it seems that if I am on a program that has 2 exi's, the changes I make goes to both EXI's. So, if I have a program that has two ms20, and change the vco, it seems that the vco changes on both exi's. _________________ Kronos 61, Alesis Fusion 6HD, Korg Legacy Collection, NI Komplete 8, NI Kore 2, Arturia Moog V Original |
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jeebustrain Platinum Member
Joined: 24 Jan 2011 Posts: 1284 Location: In a Roger Dean painting
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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jaggeddoctrine wrote: | I got my cords and hooked them into the ms20 controller. They appear to not affect anything. So, unless there is a way to turn them on within the program, I'd say they will not work with 1.5.
Of note, while making changes on the ms20 controller, the corresponding knobs on the screen do not change. So, while I am changing the vco or filter (etc), i can hear the changes, but not see that I am changing it on the Kronos screen.
I've tried a few programs, but the Modulation Generator seems to not be working..
Many of the knobs work on Polysix, AL1, and MOD7 as well.
Also, it seems that if I am on a program that has 2 exi's, the changes I make goes to both EXI's. So, if I have a program that has two ms20, and change the vco, it seems that the vco changes on both exi's. |
I remember this question coming up recently - Dan from Korg stated that the controller is only recognized as a standard midi controller - there is no actual MS20 integration. My guess is that the CC#s for the knobs just happen to match up with how the MS20 is in the Kronos. Cool, nonetheless. _________________ ::: Korg Kronos 88 ::: Alesis Fusion 8HD ::: Kurzweil PC361 ::: Roland V-Synth ::: DSI Prophet 12 ::: DSI OB-6 ::: Korg Prophecy ::: Moog Micromoog ::: Yamaha CP-30 ::: Alesis Andromeda ::: Moog Sub37 ::: Sequential Prophet 600 ::: Korg MS2000BR ::: GSI Burn :::
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cynkh Platinum Member
Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Posts: 526 Location: Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you to both of you for the info! _________________ - cynkh -
Hardware:
Kronos 61, microKORG, MoPho, Rogue, Aira System-1, Aira TB-3, Aira TR-8, MC-202, TB-303, (KMS-30), Juno 6, Alpha-Juno 1 (PG-300), SH-201, MC-09, Virus TI Snow, K2000, MPC-1000, X-Station 25, MultiMix-16FW, Ableton Live Push
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orangefunk Full Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Posts: 110
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Is this still the case for OS2.0? I have the MS20 controlller and I'm informed it works with the iMS20 software on the ipad... seems a shame if its not the case on the Kronos. |
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X-Trade Moderator
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 6494 Location: Leeds, UK
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:13 am Post subject: |
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But the architecture of the iMS20 and the MS20Ex in terms of its supporting environment is very different.
IMS20 is very similar to the legacy MS20, with some extras, in that there is one full instrument to control and it has no dynamic voice allocation.
As others have pointed out, unless there was some specific programming to support it, it won't know which of the two EXi slots you are working on or things like that.
Ex version also supports multiple patching, which the legacy and i versions do not have.
Th fact that people said that the knobs on screen weren't moving suggests to me that this is working as Realtime control through CCs, meaning that edits from that controller won't be saved,
To work properly, and be useful, it would have to somehow work in tone adjust mode, so probably need to send sysex rather than CCs _________________ Current Gear: Kronos 61, RADIAS-R, Volca Bass, ESX-1, microKorg, MS2000B, R3, Kaossilator Pro +, MiniKP, AX3000B, nanoKontrol, nanoPad MK II,
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro |
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jaggeddoctrine
Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 37
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hooked the KLC controller back up to the Kronos with 2.0. Seems to function the same way it did with 1.5.
Gary _________________ Kronos 61, Alesis Fusion 6HD, Korg Legacy Collection, NI Komplete 8, NI Kore 2, Arturia Moog V Original |
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