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dg-keys
Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Posts: 20 Location: germany
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:56 am Post subject: |
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No particular preset, jut the standard settings without any changes.
Cheers
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geoelectro Platinum Member
Joined: 14 Sep 2012 Posts: 1038 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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I have had my Kronos for 1 week. I used to play with a computer using VB-3 for organ. I ran VB-3 through a Leslie 145 initially but recently used a Neo Ventilator. (no amps on stage now) When setting up the CX organ in Kronos I was well...disappointed. I AB'd it considerably with VB-3 and although got it better, still find it having its own sound that is different from what I'm used to. The biggest problem though is the Leslie effect. No matter how it's adjusted, it's not fun to listen to. I decided to run the CX dry, out a direct output into the Ventilator and back in thru the audio inputs. Now I can live with it.
I had extensively done AB comparisons with the VB-3 to several Hammonds. It is incredibly close. Better than the N.I. B4 I had previously used. So using it to compare with the CX is reasonable.
I am a Hammond Organ technician sine 1974. Own Benton Electronics which repairs Organs and Digital Pianos. Founded in 1978.
www.bentonelectronics.com
George |
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laandodeman Senior Member
Joined: 07 Jul 2011 Posts: 417
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Had a gig yesterday, used a combination of eq-ing (few Db extra's in the 1,6kb range) and the multiband compressor. It worked great, so thanks for the tips guys!! Our sound engineer now even complained that the hammond sound was a bit too dominant |
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jeremykeys Platinum Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2011 Posts: 3092 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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I also play a lot of organ in a loud rock band. What I've done is a two-fold solution that works perfectly for me. I run my sounds from the set-list and using the set-list edit function, I adjust my volumes in rehearsal to fit.
Another thing i do in reherasal is use the set-list control panel while on organ sounds to adjust the tone of the organs so they either cut right through or sit back a bit.
In the control panel I have access to a lot of features and functions that let me taylor my organ sound to each song. I cna then save that by using my "write set list" in the set list pull down menu.
This works well! _________________ If music is the food of love, play on and play loud!
Gear: Kronos 73, Triton Pro-X, Wavestation EX, Polysix, King Korg, Monotron and Monotron Duo, Minikorg, Moog Grandmother, 1 Roland U-20, Hammond M3, 4 acoustic and 6 electric guitars, 1 Ibanez 5 string bass, a bunch of microphones and other very cool toys, 1 wife and 3 cats! |
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geoelectro Platinum Member
Joined: 14 Sep 2012 Posts: 1038 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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While playing with the Leslie sim adjustments I found that if I take the mix off of wet, say adjust it around 60/40 with 60% wet it actually sounds better to me. Less of a thumping of volume etc.
George |
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jeremykeys Platinum Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2011 Posts: 3092 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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I don't remember the link but Danatkorg posted the "correct settings for a leslie. Korg had these settings after "measuring a Leslie speaker. Maybe somebody has the time to find it . I found it to be very helpful. _________________ If music is the food of love, play on and play loud!
Gear: Kronos 73, Triton Pro-X, Wavestation EX, Polysix, King Korg, Monotron and Monotron Duo, Minikorg, Moog Grandmother, 1 Roland U-20, Hammond M3, 4 acoustic and 6 electric guitars, 1 Ibanez 5 string bass, a bunch of microphones and other very cool toys, 1 wife and 3 cats! |
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guillex Full Member
Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 206
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:09 am Post subject: |
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geoelectro wrote: | While playing with the Leslie sim adjustments I found that if I take the mix off of wet, say adjust it around 60/40 with 60% wet it actually sounds better to me. Less of a thumping of volume etc.
George |
+1!
Also remember that, on a real leslie amp, the crossover is on the 700hz, till that frequency the sound is reproduced by the woofer, everything else, is reproduced by the horn.
Regards! _________________ Current Gear: Nord Stage 2 sw 73 - Clavinet D6 - Kurzweil Artis
Past Gear: Korg Krome 61 -Hammond SK1 73 - Korg M3 61 Expanded Radias - Korg M50 73 - Korg N5EX - Korg N1R - Korg TR 76 - Korg TR 88
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jg:: Platinum Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 685 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:28 am Post subject: |
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I thought the crossover was 800Hz, but perhaps it varied between different Leslie models. |
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guillex Full Member
Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 206
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:40 am Post subject: |
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jg:: wrote: | I thought the crossover was 800Hz, but perhaps it varied between different Leslie models. |
ups sorry! you are right, 800hz! It was a keypad mistake. _________________ Current Gear: Nord Stage 2 sw 73 - Clavinet D6 - Kurzweil Artis
Past Gear: Korg Krome 61 -Hammond SK1 73 - Korg M3 61 Expanded Radias - Korg M50 73 - Korg N5EX - Korg N1R - Korg TR 76 - Korg TR 88
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geoelectro Platinum Member
Joined: 14 Sep 2012 Posts: 1038 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:52 am Post subject: |
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Sounds to me like the CX Leslie's crossover is higher than 800hz. It's also much brighter in the highs.
Geo |
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guillex Full Member
Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 206
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:14 am Post subject: |
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geoelectro wrote: | Sounds to me like the CX Leslie's crossover is higher than 800hz. It's also much brighter in the highs.
Geo |
mhhh I suspect they do this, to cut trough in the mix, however, I think this should be done in the EQ IFX and not in the ROTARY SPEAKER IFX _________________ Current Gear: Nord Stage 2 sw 73 - Clavinet D6 - Kurzweil Artis
Past Gear: Korg Krome 61 -Hammond SK1 73 - Korg M3 61 Expanded Radias - Korg M50 73 - Korg N5EX - Korg N1R - Korg TR 76 - Korg TR 88
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MRedZac Senior Member
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 374 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:01 am Post subject: Re: CX Hammond does not cut through the mix |
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laandodeman wrote: | Anyone recognize this? I play in a rock band and dhe sound technician of my band says the hammond programs I made are not loud enough compared to my other programs and they do not come through in the mix.
Is there an easy way to solve that (except of course turn up the volume of the hammonds in all my combi's)? |
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jeremykeys Platinum Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2011 Posts: 3092 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:26 am Post subject: |
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Having been on this site for a while and also having played in rock bands for a few decades and also having played Hammond clone-wheels I've come to a rather disturbing conclusion.
None of us really know what a B-3 sounds like!
AND since it is a variable sounding organ how is anybody supposed to know what sounds best?
Good sound is entirely subjective. What I like, you might hate.
I, myself don't have any problems at all with the organ sounds form the Kronos. In fact I get complemented on it.
If you are having problems with it cutting through in the mix the solutions it very simple. Play louder! I do a couple of Deep Purple covers and I can assure you that I do it in the same way that Jon Lord did. Freaking Loud!
It all boils down to one thing. If you're keyboards aren't cutting through, you aren't loud enough. Turn up! _________________ If music is the food of love, play on and play loud!
Gear: Kronos 73, Triton Pro-X, Wavestation EX, Polysix, King Korg, Monotron and Monotron Duo, Minikorg, Moog Grandmother, 1 Roland U-20, Hammond M3, 4 acoustic and 6 electric guitars, 1 Ibanez 5 string bass, a bunch of microphones and other very cool toys, 1 wife and 3 cats! |
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