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karmathanever
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Upgrading from what?
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Nemik
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what is standing for Le???
Limited Edition or Lite Edition ???
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karmathanever
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Traditionally Korg used "LE" to mean a stripped down/compact/less expensive version - so I think "Lite" is certainly appropriate or maybe "LEss".
This is definitely NOT a replacement or upgrade and I can't imagine the Korg could afford a "limited" edition.
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Craig E
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I had recently ordered a LE, but having spoken with Korg and a few stores, from what I was told the LE is more of a 76 note PA900, rather than a cut down PA3X 76 note.
I suppose calling it a PA3X LE sounds better than a PA900 76 from a marketing point 
I've purchased the PA3X pro instead. I'm hoping the violin, guitar sounds and the soprano voice are in here that you can hear on the new LE video demos and that the piano voices are just as good. |
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siebenhirter
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: New Korg PA3XLe |
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| hwh wrote: | | So what do you think about the new PA3XLe? |
... comes without fingered3-mode and without selectable Fill-Modes - that seems to be a step backward in development of its styleplayer.
Korg SHOULD TRY TO HOLD THE LEVEL OF FUNCTIONS THAT ALREADY WHERE PRESENT - since more then 10 years and even in small MicroArranger and Pa500.
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Dikikeys
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I completely agree, sieben...
At the very least, Korg need to COMMUNICATE with their users before they remove a feature, and see what the response is.
This is something Roland are terrible at... each new arranger drops as many great features as it adds! Where do these people do their market research? I've NEVER seen any communication between the people who design these things and the people who have to use them..!  |
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nitecrawler
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I've been using the new pa3xle for three days now and find it a great addition to my arsenal
. The violins, guitars and electric and acoustic pianos are very pleasing. Can't compare with other pa's but it sonically stacks up well to my Oasys. Fwiw
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mrniceneasy
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: New Korg PA3XLe |
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| siebenhirter wrote: | | hwh wrote: | | So what do you think about the new PA3XLe? |
... comes without fingered3-mode and without selectable Fill-Modes - that seems to be a step backward in development of its styleplayer.
Korg SHOULD TRY TO HOLD THE LEVEL OF FUNCTIONS THAT ALREADY WHERE PRESENT - since more then 10 years and even in small MicroArranger and Pa500. |
Have just bought the LE and very happy with it however the loss of proper multi fingering modes is very disappointing and has marred my enjoyment of the keyboard. The so called Expert mode allows 2 fingers to be dropped for a Chord but this causes problems in playing Inverted Chords. Not a problem where Root chords are played as you lift your hand totally from the keyboard between chords, not so with Inverted chords and so with changing between certain chords can give unwanted chord changes between the correct chords.
DO NOT LIKE THIS. Come on Korg - PLEASE reinstate the advanced chord fingering back to the LE.... I'm sure it can be done!
Regards and salutations to all my friends here on Korg Forums. Been a long time since I visited...
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Now don't be shy, Keith. It's good to see you back on here.
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kgardner53
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:38 pm Post subject: a question for Dikikeys |
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| Dikikeys wrote: | I completely agree, sieben...
At the very least, Korg need to COMMUNICATE with their users before they remove a feature, and see what the response is.
... I've NEVER seen any communication between the people who design these things and the people who have to use them..! |
May I ask a question, Dikikeys? What would you say if you had bought a PA3X, either one, at retail list price and discovered that this PA3X-LE was now available with its reduced price and every single one of the PA3X features was on it? One can only imagine what kind of communication you would fire off to KORG ! Dumbed down or lite versions of software and automobiles have their place.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: a question for Dikikeys |
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| kgardner53 wrote: | | May I ask a question, Dikikeys? What would you say if you had bought a PA3X, either one, at retail list price and discovered that this PA3X-LE was now available with its reduced price and every single one of the PA3X features was on it? One can only imagine what kind of communication you would fire off to KORG ! Dumbed down or lite versions of software and automobiles have their place. |
What on earth are you talking about, kgardner? The fingered chord issue has NOTHING to do with the level of market segment an arranger is in, nor its cost... Previous MOTL Korg's had the three fingered chord mode, it is NOT a TOTL arranger exclusive.
Once again, the specter of marketing confusion muddies the water. The PA3XLe is merely a PA900 with a 76 action, pretty much. Most of the confusion and unfulfilled expectation, not to mention the angst you seem to be showing about the thought that a MOTL arranger or lesser model to the TOTL had all the features of the top model is due to the name...
Pretty much all of this rubbish would never have started if Korg had have named the model the PA900/76..! 
But call it a PA3XLe and everyone loses their minds! Try to look deeper, and not let marketing tactics befuddle your opinions... |
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kgardner53
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Is it not the case that the PA3X LE is missing a desirable chord recognition feature?
Is it not the case that this was intentional on KORG's part?
Does this not make the purchase of a PA3X a necessity in some users' minds?
I am talking about intentional model design to establish its place in the lineup.
I am simply saying that features establish a model's superiority in the model lineup.
And to quote Forrest Gump, "That's all I have to say about that."
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nitecrawler
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Excellent points Kim. I bought the Pa3Xle for its 76 keys and metal construction. The fact that it's missing a chord mod has not become and issue yet. I am a piano player so left handed full chords are not a big deal. What's important is 76 keys and metal wood construction. I play out a lot and plastic makes me a little squeamish. Being a $1000.00 cheaper is a big plus as well.
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mrniceneasy
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I bought the Le as it had the 76 keys that I wanted and the cost had a big part in it also. I would have liked a pa3x pro but for the price I could have only got a second hand one with no Guarantee. I'm not concerned that the keyboard has some limitations over its big Brother pa3xpro but this one issue of the Fingering modes needs to be rectified as far as I'm concerned. I don't play piano chords, never played a real piano, all my chord structures are based on Invertions. That's how I play. As I said earlier it's difficult in full swing not to get erroneous chords when changing. I suspect it would be easy to add this back into the software...
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