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AshkanPA800
Joined: 23 Sep 2014 Posts: 4 Location: Tehran- Iran
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:12 am Post subject: PA 900 or PA3XLE, Which one to upgrade from PA800 |
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Hi guys,
I was wondering if you could help me make the right decision as i am about to upgrade my PA800 but i am in two minds between PA 900 and PA3XLE!!
It is said that PA900 is very low in quality comparing to PA800, in terms of Speakers, Keys, Body, ... but PA3XLE is even better than PA800 but it is more expensive than PA900 and PA 800
I am a home user, playing just keyboard not Piano, not familiar with sampling,... at all
Thanks in advance for your comments.
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Thoraldus Platinum Member
Joined: 28 Nov 2010 Posts: 2061 Location: Rocky Mountains - SE IDaho
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:22 am Post subject: Re: PA 900 or PA3XLE, Which one to upgrade from PA800 |
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AshkanPA800 wrote: | Hi guys,
I was wondering if you could help me make the right decision as i am about to upgrade my PA800 but i am in two minds between PA 900 and PA3XLE!!
It is said that PA900 is very low in quality comparing to PA800, in terms of Speakers, Keys, Body, ... but PA3XLE is even better than PA800 but it is more expensive than PA900 and PA 800
I am a home user, playing just keyboard not Piano, not familiar with sampling,... at all
Thanks in advance for your comments.
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Given your requirements I would suggest you look at the PA600 first. _________________ ”It’s easy to play any musical instrument: all you have to do is touch the right key at the right time and the instrument will play itself.”
Johann Sebastian Bach
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Rick Stirling - Retired Electrical Engineer - Erstwhile Photographer
Korg Kronos2, Casio MZ-X500, PA600, AKAI MPD32, M-Audio Oxygen 25, ZOOM H6, Cakewalk Sonar |
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siebenhirter Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2011 Posts: 1843
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: PA 900 or PA3XLE, Which one to upgrade from PA800 |
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AshkanPA800 wrote: | .. help me make the right decision as i am about to upgrade my PA800 .. |
if you used to modulate your pa800-sound with aftertouch, then pa600 without aftertouch is not a good choice for you - in that case i would prefer Pa900.
if you used Pa800-styleplaying with fingered3-mode, to play single-notes with Lower or if you often used different Pa800-Fill-Modes and individual Fill-Ins, then Pa900 and Pa3Xle without fingered3-mode and without selectable Fill-Modes is not a good choice for you - in that case i would prefer not to upgrade your Pa800. _________________ kind regards
- siebenhirter, austria -
Interesting facts about styles and stylePlayer functions can be found at http: www.elmarherz.de |
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Fransman Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 1095 Location: Netherlands (PA4X61+PAas. Past: PA3X, PA800, Y PSR-S910, PA500, T KN1000, Y PSR-16)
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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If you're happy with your PA800, stick to it! (I do!)
If you desperately need the new style compatibality, for home use, and to save some money, I would suggest you to go for a new PA900.
PA3X LE is equiped with almost the same functionalities, but is a lot more expensive and has no built-in speakers.
You have to buy the (expensive) PaAS speaker system with it or invest in another PA installation.
PA3X LE maybe has a better keybed and is better built, but this comes with a (high) price tag.
If the money isn't a problem... maybe PA3X LE or even PA3X.
Always take your time to play on the instruments before you decide.
I played PA900 a while ago, and it kept me from buying it.
When I returned to my home and started playing my PA800, I decided NOT to trade.
It sounds so good and feels like a tank.
I will probably wait for one of the next successors (PA4X or one of its derivates).
I think my PA800 will not be outdated in the coming 2 or 3 years.
But you never know, really. I do miss the newest free styles available out there... _________________ Musical grtz, Frans
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NICKY
Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 26
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Fransman wrote: | If you're happy with your PA800, stick to it! (I do!)
If you desperately need the new style compatibality, for home use, and to save some money, I would suggest you to go for a new PA900.
PA3X LE is equiped with almost the same functionalities, but is a lot more expensive and has no built-in speakers.
You have to buy the (expensive) PaAS speaker system with it or invest in another PA installation.
PA3X LE maybe has a better keybed and is better built, but this comes with a (high) price tag.
If the money isn't a problem... maybe PA3X LE or even PA3X.
Always take your time to play on the instruments before you decide.
I played PA900 a while ago, and it kept me from buying it.
When I returned to my home and started playing my PA800, I decided NOT to trade.
It sounds so good and feels like a tank.
I will probably wait for one of the next successors (PA4X or one of its derivates).
I think my PA800 will not be outdated in the coming 2 or 3 years.
But you never know, really. I do miss the newest free styles available out there... |
thanks for great replying Fransman
I will wait for one of the next successors too
I think korg was great in design and hardware quality in past.
unfortunately today there is no good keyboard (61-key with build in speaker ) acceptable in hardware.
and this is a bad news after 7-8 years still a lot of user of pa800 don't want to upgrade their pa800 to pa900.
I don't like to migrate to another brands.but I want from korg to release a good keyboard for users and stop confusing cutomers for buying this version of keyborad(61-Key ,build in speaker,acceptable in hardware like pa800)
best regard |
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AshkanPA800
Joined: 23 Sep 2014 Posts: 4 Location: Tehran- Iran
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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NICKY wrote: | Fransman wrote: | If you're happy with your PA800, stick to it! (I do!)
If you desperately need the new style compatibality, for home use, and to save some money, I would suggest you to go for a new PA900.
PA3X LE is equiped with almost the same functionalities, but is a lot more expensive and has no built-in speakers.
You have to buy the (expensive) PaAS speaker system with it or invest in another PA installation.
PA3X LE maybe has a better keybed and is better built, but this comes with a (high) price tag.
If the money isn't a problem... maybe PA3X LE or even PA3X.
Always take your time to play on the instruments before you decide.
I played PA900 a while ago, and it kept me from buying it.
When I returned to my home and started playing my PA800, I decided NOT to trade.
It sounds so good and feels like a tank.
I will probably wait for one of the next successors (PA4X or one of its derivates).
I think my PA800 will not be outdated in the coming 2 or 3 years.
But you never know, really. I do miss the newest free styles available out there... |
thanks for great replying Fransman
I will wait for one of the next successors too
I think korg was great in design and hardware quality in past.
unfortunately today there is no good keyboard (61-key with build in speaker ) acceptable in hardware.
and this is a bad news after 7-8 years still a lot of user of pa800 don't want to upgrade their pa800 to pa900.
I don't like to migrate to another brands.but I want from korg to release a good keyboard for users and stop confusing cutomers for buying this version of keyborad(61-Key ,build in speaker,acceptable in hardware like pa800)
best regard |
Hi all i went and played with both PA900 and PA3Xle , i found PA900 very poor in quality specially invterms of keys comparing with PA800
I also have to buy a speaker called PAAS as PA3Xle does not come with in-built speaker
I am sick of my PA800 although it is like a tank comparing with PA900
I need a change but PA900 did not push me to sell PA800 |
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worth Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1096
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:08 am Post subject: |
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If you actually start to learn the features of your keyboard and how to program styles and how to edit sounds, you will gradually begin to realise that the constant desire to "upgrade ", becomes less and less as your famiarity with your keyboard increases . good luck with whatever you by 😀 |
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Snorkum Senior Member
Joined: 16 Apr 2014 Posts: 441 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Worth, you are correct in your statement. I think the same, poeple should get more familiar with the features and capability of their equipment. They might would change. I don't understand by poeple have such a negative opinion about the PA900. I understand that everything is personal preference. However, understanding the keyboard and how to play certain parts is a key. That's where your statement come in to play. Everytime I play in front of people they are amazed the sound that's coming out and the realism of various instruments.
Always remember, software and electronic can only do so much, after that it is your capabilities.
Just a little opinion of a very basic/humbled keyboard player. _________________ The only stupid questions are the questions that have not been asked.
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GEM SX3, PA900
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jimsweb Senior Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2014 Posts: 393
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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+1 snorkum _________________ Life's music - www.myoozic.com |
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Brian007 Full Member
Joined: 25 Dec 2013 Posts: 158 Location: Co. Durham
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:45 am Post subject: |
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+1 snorkum |
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Fransman Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 1095 Location: Netherlands (PA4X61+PAas. Past: PA3X, PA800, Y PSR-S910, PA500, T KN1000, Y PSR-16)
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Snorkum wrote: | people should get more familiar with the features and capability of their equipment. They might would change. I don't understand by poeple have such a negative opinion about the PA900. I understand that everything is personal preference. However, understanding the keyboard and how to play certain parts is a key. That's where your statement come in to play. Everytime I play in front of people they are amazed the sound that's coming out and the realism of various instruments.
Always remember, software and electronic can only do so much, after that it is your capabilities.
Just a little opinion of a very basic/humbled keyboard player. |
You're absolutely right. The same goes for PA800; you and your crowd would probably be amazed by the sound of it as well.
I'm not negative about PA900 soundwise, styles, features etcetera, but compared toPA800, it's not as good built quality, especially the keybed and amplification system.
That's not a matter of personal taste, it's something you can easily judge when you play on both instruments.
And I'm not the only person who has this opinion, reading some of the previous postings in this thread and elsewhere.
If I needed to spend the money (say: my PA800 broke down; I really don't hope so!), I would probably invest in a PA3XLE with a separate PA system (Not PAas).
I think that if I would buy a PA900, I would get the feeling that I did a step backwards compared to PA800. _________________ Musical grtz, Frans
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AshkanPA800
Joined: 23 Sep 2014 Posts: 4 Location: Tehran- Iran
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Fransman wrote: | Snorkum wrote: | people should get more familiar with the features and capability of their equipment. They might would change. I don't understand by poeple have such a negative opinion about the PA900. I understand that everything is personal preference. However, understanding the keyboard and how to play certain parts is a key. That's where your statement come in to play. Everytime I play in front of people they are amazed the sound that's coming out and the realism of various instruments.
Always remember, software and electronic can only do so much, after that it is your capabilities.
Just a little opinion of a very basic/humbled keyboard player. |
You're absolutely right. The same goes for PA800; you and your crowd would probably be amazed by the sound of it as well.
I'm not negative about PA900 soundwise, styles, features etcetera, but compared toPA800, it's not as good built quality, especially the keybed and amplification system.
That's not a matter of personal taste, it's something you can easily judge when you play on both instruments.
And I'm not the only person who has this opinion, reading some of the previous postings in this thread and elsewhere.
If I needed to spend the money (say: my PA800 broke down; I really don't hope so!), I would probably invest in a PA3XLE with a separate PA system (Not PAas).
I think that if I would buy a PA900, I would get the feeling that I did a step backwards compared to PA800. |
Hi can u plz advise what PA system would you choose instead of PAas? |
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Fransman Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 1095 Location: Netherlands (PA4X61+PAas. Past: PA3X, PA800, Y PSR-S910, PA500, T KN1000, Y PSR-16)
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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AshkanPA800 wrote: |
Hi can u plz advise what PA system would you choose instead of PAas? |
I can't, I'm sorry, I haven't investigated this yet.
Maybe somebody else here at Korgforums can give you some advice.
I think it's better to start a new thread for this. _________________ Musical grtz, Frans
Play in style. |
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Dikikeys Guest
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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If you are just a home user, any decent stereo system has a good chance of outperforming the expensive PAAS system... plus it doubles as your stereo!
On the whole, I think the move to the newer Korg's is a good move. The number of fills ballooned with the new generation of Korg arrangers, and tends to address the major fault I used to feel about them... somewhat 'jumpy' transitions. Not to mention DNC voices, better Guitar Mode, a whole plethora of things have improved compared to the PA800.
And don't discount the Chord Sequencer... probably one of the most fun things to get added to Korg's OS in years! Think of it as a third hand.. |
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DonM Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2002 Posts: 1150 Location: Benton, LA
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:51 am Post subject: |
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I wish we could save the CS recordings for future use, like Roland.
DonM |
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