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Hugo
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:27 pm Post subject:

So is it possible to sequence more than four notes simultaneously of external gear?

DrHoo
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:57 pm Post subject:

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Olivander12 wrote:

He mentions the event recorder several times:

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Es gibt noch eine weitere Möglichkeit, aus dem Event Recorder heraus von einem Marker bis zu einem bestimmten Marker Audio auszugeben

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Dafür gibt es jedoch einen Event-Recorder, welcher auf SD-Karten eine aktuelle Performance aufzeichnet. Das geschieht in Datenform und ist dazu da, diese 1:1 zu wiederholen und wenn das passiert ist,

Ah, I guess that didn't catch my eye. I read the review quickly via Google Translate on my phone. Haven't had my coffee this morning yet... zzzzz. Looking at it again though, he doesn't go into much detail about it.

To be honest, when these things were first announced, I wasn't going to get one because I saw it had no Song Mode. It's a deal breaker for a lot of other people as well, but that Event Recorder is the one thing that's changed my mind since it can be used as an alternative. I think people reviewing this machine should really point this feature out because it can change a lot of other people's minds about the product as well.

IMO the event recorder is not a good alternative to song mode. Yes you can event-record a chain of patterns & also anything you do during your recording will be saved, knob movements, keyboard action etc.. What you can't do though is then edit that event recording as far as i can tell. You can play it back & you can live jam along with it but you can't record over it again, the record button just won't operate in the event player.

Clearly the function has some uses & those will vary with different people but i believe that any song as such, a full length tune then, will be a tedious task with this machine..... Which is why i havn't even attempted it yet.
If you're a keyboard player & want something to play along to it might offer some uses i guess.... An external song mode box would be most welcome.
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:43 pm Post subject:

DrHoo wrote:

Programming full-length songs on any hardware sequencer is already a very tedious task, but a lot of that depends on what kind of music you do and how you write it. I write Synthpop music that is structured piece by piece to go along with a set of lyrics, so for me, there's no need to go back and edit the Event Recording because every individual pattern will be prepared in advance to follow a specific structure. Once it's done, it's done and I just play lead on top of it while tweaking the programmed sounds live. I realize not everyone works this way and a good portion of people like to improvise full sets and edit things later, but for those of us writing and performing pop structured songs, I think this machine will be more than capable of getting the job done.
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Discore
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:00 am Post subject:

Hugo wrote:

So is it possible to sequence more than four notes simultaneously of external gear?

Yes, he says:

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Möchte man mehr Stimmen einsetzen, benötigt man einfach eine weitere Spur. So ließen sich auch fast orchestrale Kompositionen mit der Electribe steuern.

Translation: If you want to use more (than 4) voices, you just need another part. There could be nearly orchestral like compositions made with the Electribe.

So I guess you can have 64 notes for external synths (16 part x 4 voices).
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apapdop
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:44 am Post subject:

DrHoo wrote:

Say you just record a series of pattern changes into the Event Recorder. You then set the Event Recorder playing and you patterns play back, changing when you wanted them to. Whilst your recording is playing, can you mute/unmute parts, twiddle with knobs etc? I'm sure you won't be able to record those mutes/unmutes and knob twiddles as an overdub onto your original recording, but if the machine could deal with the pattern changes while you shape the track with mutes/unmutes etc (recording the audio on something else) that sounds good to me...
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Tom 62
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:48 am Post subject:

Hugo wrote:

So is it possible to sequence more than four notes simultaneously of external gear?

Not per part. Even with external gear you can't record/play more than 4 notes per part.

Hugo
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:47 am Post subject:

Ok guys, thanks for clarifying this. I guess that'll work, although it will be a bit cumbersome to sequence complex chords having to distribute the notes on several parts. After reading some of the criticism, I'm a bit hesitant on the Electribe2 now.

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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:31 pm Post subject:

Tom 62 wrote:

Hugo wrote:

So is it possible to sequence more than four notes simultaneously of external gear?

Not per part. Even with external gear you can't record/play more than 4 notes per part.

Has someone that owns the unit actually tested this yet? I'm curious about this too, but I don't recall getting an official word from any of the owners here. The manual refers to "sounds" and "voices" per part, but that might be just what the synth engine is limited to generating. The actual amount of notes themselves which the sequencer and pads can receive/transmit could be different.
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DrHoo
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:42 pm Post subject:

apapdop wrote:

DrHoo wrote:

To advance a little further you could just make a pattern set & then event record knob movements etc as the set plays back. You could pre program mutes in different patterns in the set so you would be leaving yourself hands free to manipulate the synth.
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:23 pm Post subject:

DrHoo wrote:

You could pre program mutes in different patterns in the set so you would be leaving yourself hands free to manipulate the synth.

This is actually how I plan on approaching the machine myself. Back when I used to have the MC-303, you could chain patterns in Song Mode, but that was literally all you could do with it. If you wanted a certain pattern to be triggered with one of the parts muted automatically, you'd have to save a new copy of it as a "Variation Pattern." What was really frustrating though was that there wasn't a proper display that let you name the patterns, just a set of numbers, so you'd had to have a sheet of paper with all your pattern numbers written down in order before even attempting to use Song Mode. Now that was truly tedious. Twisted Evil

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