 |
Korg Forums
A forum for Korg product users and musicians around the world.
Moderated Independently.
Owned by Irish Acts Recording Studio & hosted by KORG USA
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
slug
Senior Member
Joined: 03 Aug 2007
Posts: 371
|
 Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:25 am Post subject: |
 |
|
| Sounds like a retarded thing to say about a synth that doesn't even have ADSR or dedicated LFO, mod matrix etc |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Buska
Senior Member
Joined: 16 Sep 2014
Posts: 373
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:27 am Post subject: |
|
|
Sooo I just called my dealer and got a nice preorder price on the sampler so I bought it..
Now here comes the waiting game again, really hope it doesn't let me down like the synth version.
But I see great potential in the synth version if they add a bit deeper editing and longer pattern length, I will probably buy another emx2 down the line off ebay. But for now I'm pretty happy with the way it panned out, my discount offset the money I lost on resell.. Happy days 
If they do release a big editor librarian for the emx2 & esx2 they will pretty much be nobrainers
It kind of makes sense that a librarian/editor will be released with the sampler version, maybe we might even be able to use the volca editor tech to dl samples too it also?
_________________
Korg gear : EMX1SD, Volca Sample, DS-10
iOS: Gadget, iM1, iElectribe, iMs20, iPolysix, iKaossilator
History : Korg E2, Mini KP, Kaossilator Mini, R3 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
roblabs
Platinum Member
Joined: 25 Sep 2011
Posts: 1396
Location: NYC
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
@ Buska
Dude not to be a killjoy but if you were not happy with the e2, not sure the sampler will compensate considering they have the same architecture. Unless they update the fw differently or improve it by the time it arrives. Just saying...
_________________
www.soundcloud.com/rob-labs |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Buska
Senior Member
Joined: 16 Sep 2014
Posts: 373
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:53 am Post subject: |
|
|
| roblabs wrote: | @ Buska
Dude not to be a killjoy but if you were not happy with the e2, not sure the sampler will compensate considering they have the same architecture. Unless they update the fw differently or improve it by the time it arrives. Just saying... |
yeah but I really likes the workflow and useability of the emx2 but didn't like the simplistic synth engine. The sampler is a whole different story and I should of just waited for it in the first place, but as it turns out I got to play with the emx2 for a few weeks and didn't loose any money.
I work primarily with samples and my softsynths on my computer are sooo much more powerful than the emx2 engine. Now I will be able to sample my synths into the esx2 and I will probably buy an original emx also.
If the synth engine was just deeper on the emx2 I would not of sold it.
_________________
Korg gear : EMX1SD, Volca Sample, DS-10
iOS: Gadget, iM1, iElectribe, iMs20, iPolysix, iKaossilator
History : Korg E2, Mini KP, Kaossilator Mini, R3 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
roblabs
Platinum Member
Joined: 25 Sep 2011
Posts: 1396
Location: NYC
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:37 am Post subject: |
|
|
^^^
fair enough, Buska
One thing that I hope they have different on the Sampler is the AMP release....do you notice that you cannot make a PCM part any longer than it already is? Which is a shame considering how long you can make the tails of synths.
_________________
www.soundcloud.com/rob-labs |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Buska
Senior Member
Joined: 16 Sep 2014
Posts: 373
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
| roblabs wrote: | ^^^
fair enough, Buska
One thing that I hope they have different on the Sampler is the AMP release....do you notice that you cannot make a PCM part any longer than it already is? Which is a shame considering how long you can make the tails of synths. |
Yeah but they would need a stretching algorithm to do that which I'm not sure if the sampler has. A way around that is to import a long sample and then use the dec to shorten it and then if you need a longer tail you just increase the decay time
_________________
Korg gear : EMX1SD, Volca Sample, DS-10
iOS: Gadget, iM1, iElectribe, iMs20, iPolysix, iKaossilator
History : Korg E2, Mini KP, Kaossilator Mini, R3 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Kilko
Junior Member
Joined: 05 Nov 2014
Posts: 77
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:13 am Post subject: |
|
|
Wow, he actually removed his post on facebook. At least now you know 
_________________
-------------------------------------------------------------
Owner of the Korg Electribe 2! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Re-Member
Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2008
Posts: 657
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:16 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Buska wrote: | | If the synth engine was just deeper on the emx2 I would not of sold it. |
Both have the same knobs and interface, so it's very unlikely that the synth engine will be any deeper on the sampler version. The only difference I see happening is allowing to user to select samples instead of the basic PCM sounds, which actually has nothing to do with the actual synthesis options afterward. The sampling version has actually has less filters listed, for example. There will probably be less modeled VA waveforms as well. That's sort of how it is between the ESX-1 and EMX-1. The sampling version has less synthesis features to differentiate the two.
_________________
Roland Juno-60, SH-101, TR-606, MC-505, Casio CZ-101, Yamaha DX100, DX11, Kawai R-50e // Korg R3, microSTATION, Monotribe, MS-20 Mini, SQ-1, minilogue, electribe sampler, Volca series: Bass, Keys, Beats, Sample, FM, Kick, Moog Theremin |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Poumtschak
Senior Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2007
Posts: 295
Location: GMT+1
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:44 am Post subject: |
|
|
| roblabs wrote: | | One thing that I hope they have different on the Sampler is the AMP release....do you notice that you cannot make a PCM part any longer than it already is? Which is a shame considering how long you can make the tails of synths. |
Won't happen if samples are one shot (i.e. no loop points).
Does the e2 has some looping PCM, on multisamples especially?
Usually tails on pianos, strings, you know.
This would indicate that the PCM engine can manage loop points on samples, like most samplers of the 90s.
I don't expect live timestretching at this price point though.
The oscillators in the synth parts are calculated real-time (VA), no wonder you can make a SAW last forever.
| Mistabishi on FB wrote: | | Electribe2 sampler is going to be obscenely sickkk. |
_________________
My electribe2 lousy patterns and stuff | KORG gear: NTS-1, nanoKEY2, electribe2/2S, WS/SR, WS/EX (on storage) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Buska
Senior Member
Joined: 16 Sep 2014
Posts: 373
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:44 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Re-Member wrote: | | Buska wrote: | | If the synth engine was just deeper on the emx2 I would not of sold it. |
Both have the same knobs and interface, so it's very unlikely that the synth engine will be any deeper on the sampler version. The only difference I see happening is allowing to user to select samples instead of the basic PCM sounds, which actually has nothing to do with the actual synthesis options afterward. The sampling version has actually has less filters listed, for example. There will probably be less modeled VA waveforms as well. That's sort of how it is between the ESX-1 and EMX-1. The sampling version has less synthesis features to differentiate the two. |
Thanks but yes I'm aware of that :p
Maybe it's the way I wrote that that caused confusion?
I don't see the emx2 and esx2 as compeditors but as complimentary to each other. The emx2 fell short of my expectations as a synth. I was originally going to buy both.
The sampler has less va waveforms (only basic sine/saw/square as far as I know) and much less filters, but it's a sampler so the basic synth doesn't really matter to me. I will only use the synth in the esx2 for sub bass sine stuff
I would of bought both but yeah the preloaded pcm stuff on the emx2 is useless too me and the synth engine like I said fell well short of the depth I was hoping for.
The first thing I will do when I get the esx2 is listen to the demo songs then delete all the pcm stuff and start sampling my other gear
I used to have a studio full of samplers years ago but sold most of them as the backing up of so many samplers and the often archaic ui just annoyed me. The ui of the emx2 but with a sampling engine is exactly what I'm after. If it's legit I will no doubt end up with 2. I see it as a upgraded volca sampler.
I think it's strange they limited the synth engine compared to the original emx though, as that was quite powerful.
_________________
Korg gear : EMX1SD, Volca Sample, DS-10
iOS: Gadget, iM1, iElectribe, iMs20, iPolysix, iKaossilator
History : Korg E2, Mini KP, Kaossilator Mini, R3 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Octahedron
Joined: 29 Dec 2014
Posts: 34
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:28 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Still no news from namm?  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
dutchcow
Senior Member
Joined: 26 Dec 2014
Posts: 404
Location: Mansfield, UK
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I'm putting my money on Step Master integration. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
NickZoll
Full Member
Joined: 22 Jan 2015
Posts: 181
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Octahedron wrote: | | Still no news from namm? |
nothing... just one video on youtube from namm 2015 downloaded by guitar center where Rich says the things about e2 that we already know. No upgrades or something like that.
_________________
Korg R3, EMX1, volca keys, minikp 2, electribe 2, prologue, karp oddy, dns 12, all ios apps. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Octahedron
Joined: 29 Dec 2014
Posts: 34
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Bummer. I still hope they fix things soon. I like the new Tribe but it feels like an unfinished product. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
