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Beatstep pro from arturia demo really shows great capability

 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:38 pm    Post subject: Beatstep pro from arturia demo really shows great capability Reply with quote

So yeah i know you can't really compare the beatstep pro and the e2 since once roduces its own sound and the other controls other instruments, but i just have to share with with everyone, also listen towards the end for the features that they are still adding before it comes out... pretty awesome stuff, the guy did a great demo IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lciolLc8mfI&spfreload=10
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is why I haven't picked up an SQ-1 yet... Want to see more of this...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

let me understand this ... beatstep ~ 16 track sequencer ... do I need 16 cables and 16 external units to get me excited the same way as I'm excited while working with E2 ?

I used to be cable/unit collector. ... At the end of the day it just kills the creative juices to connect 8+ power bricks and 8 + midi cables and make sure all midi cables are doing what they are supposed to do.
Since this is a sequencer what about motion recording on individual units ? ... agh... I need 16 monkeys

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If you an analog+patch guy (collector) with a lot of space and time ... I suppose beatstep would be great for you.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this would be great paired with the emx2/esx2.
Higher resolution sequence, longer sequence, performance features..
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope there's some way to back up the projects on the beatstep pro :/
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the computer, I bet you can.
And it's 16 patterns per program, 16 programs which is pretty good as it is.

I hope we can tweak the drum part to make it more like a 3rd synth. And I want midi sending through midi and usb outs on all three channels for all parts.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bladuck wrote:
let me understand this ... beatstep ~ 16 track sequencer ... do I need 16 cables and 16 external units to get me excited the same way as I'm excited while working with E2 ?

I used to be cable/unit collector. ... At the end of the day it just kills the creative juices to connect 8+ power bricks and 8 + midi cables and make sure all midi cables are doing what they are supposed to do.
Since this is a sequencer what about motion recording on individual units ? ... agh... I need 16 monkeys

....

If you an analog+patch guy (collector) with a lot of space and time ... I suppose beatstep would be great for you.


It's not really a 16 track sequencer in the way you are thinking. 2 synth tracks, 16 drum tracks, 8 of which have analog trigger outs if you have analog drum gear, the synth tracks also have cv gate. If you stick with midi you can have two synths and a drum machine/sampler, I'm pretty sure you can still use all 16 drum tracks on midi, but it was a while ago I watched the video.

So not an electribe or even just the sequencer part of the electribe, I'm pretty sure it doesn't do anything like motion record. Still a big upgrade over the original beatstep and very useful, not just for collectors. I for instance have a roland R8M and a rack sampler with no internal sequencer, and a pro one without MIDI. I also have the space to leave gear hooked up(though I have not always had the luxury).

So I guess it's not for you and that's cool. I can't. Really see a need or use for this with any of the electribes. I'll agree working in one box has many advantages but I personally can't get over the variety of sound you get from different synths and gear.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:25 am    Post subject: Electribe + SQ-1 is a surprisingly useful alternative to BSP Reply with quote

Bumping this thread back into view since the Beatstep Pro is now out. I have an alternative to it for those who already have an Electribe and a couple of analogs and don't have an analog drum module.

Add a SQ-1 to your setup. Done.

Here's what I do:
1) Electribe 2 with MIDI Out Filter Off. Clock Sync External.
2) SQ-1 with default receive MIDI settings of CV/Gate A on ch1 and B on ch2. It's passing MIDI I/O through USB. Clock is default Auto.
3) Module #1 (MS-20m) receiving MIDI on default ch1
4) Module #2 (System-1m) receiving MIDI on ch2. This is also the Clock Master.

Whenever these modules VCO/TRIG In are jacked into they no longer respond to MIDI note messages and are responding to the CV/Gate source (SQ-1 or other module). If the SQ-1 sequencer is running it is modulating according to the on board sequencer and ignoring incoming MIDI messages. If the SQ-1 is stopped it is receiving MIDI message ready to be a MIDI to CV converter.

Example: If, on the Electribe, you are playing a sequence or triggering the pad on Part 1, which is communicating on MIDI ch1, and depending how you have the SQ-1 jacked into Module #1, you will either cause the SQ-1 to MIDI to CV/Gate convert your notes to Module #1 OR your MIDI notes will go directly to Module #1 leaving your SQ-1 free to modulate whatever you want according to the sequencer. You can even limit the SQ-1 to one step, full gate and you now have a control knob for your mod.

Why a third device for Clock master?
The reason I use one of the Modules as a clock master for the Electribe and SQ-1 is because if I use the Electribe then it's going to start/stop my SQ-1. I don't want that since I want to be able to control them independently. What's cool about the System-1m is that it's just constantly outputting the clock and no transport control. It can be any 3rd clock master however.

I understand the setup seems a little complex and you're going to have to find a way to get all these hubbed together but if you've already got a bunch of stuff like this talking over MIDI it may just be a matter of jacking the SQ-1 into a hub and go. Otherwise you're going to need a thru box setup from your Electribe. An iConnectMIDI4+ also works well out of the box.

Just remember to reserve Part 1 and 2 on the Electribe for sequencing and control or your analog gear and set them to Mono giving polyphony back to the other parts.

I really think the Beatstep Pro is a cool idea if you have all the kind of gear it supports. It's a good price too. I'm glad, however, I tried this approach and am now happier and surprised this actually turned out less limiting and maybe even a little more feature rich. I did not previously consider the Electribe and SQ-1 as being such a powerhouse.
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