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stlkr
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:38 am    Post subject: recording midi into daw Reply with quote
recording MIDI from e2 into Albeton
the first 4 bars run shows that notes are off-grid.
second cycle of 4 bars is more ongrid but still not on it.
i tested thru midi in out synced thru Komplete 6 interface.
same thing going for usb syncing.
i recorded 4 bars from ableton with 16th playing on grid,
recorded into e2, reorded into DAW midi - got offgrid.
i turned down shuffleand grooves - offgrid.

blame e2? ableton? NWA?
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thesigma
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not sure who to blame but how about a quick "Quantize" in ableton to put back on grid?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Welcome to the wonderfully nightmarish world of MIDI latency and jitter. Twisted Evil

Unfortunately, it's really difficult to bounce MIDI back and forth between any DAW without there being a slight delay. It's never going to be 100% accurate. One thing I often experience trying to slave Ableton to a hardware sequencer is that once it receives the start clock message, it takes a couple seconds to smooth out the tempo. Knowing that, one trick you could do is leave all 16 parts muted for a 4/4 cycle while recording, then unmute them all. From there, simply delete the beginning blank 4/4 measure from the MIDI clip and quantize if any of the notes are off drastically off grid.
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Telengard
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sort of off topic but wouldn't it be great if you could just import and export midi for patterns. Then you could do all the funky editing in your DAW of choice and dump it on to the electribe or back from the electribe for more surgical editing.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ableton is notoriously awful as a midi slave. It works better as a master, but there will still be latency. Just quantize it when you're done.

It would be wonderful if the electribes could import midi files....
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
What about the reverse? Can you stream midi data in to the Electribe?
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stlkr
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
DiscoDevil wrote:
What about the reverse? Can you stream midi data in to the Electribe?

you can. always. that's what midi is for.
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stlkr
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
thesigma wrote:
Ableton is notoriously awful as a midi slave. It works better as a master, but there will still be latency. Just quantize it when you're done.

It would be wonderful if the electribes could import midi files....

I use Ableton as master.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
stlkr wrote:
DiscoDevil wrote:
What about the reverse? Can you stream midi data in to the Electribe?

you can. always. that's what midi is for.


What?

If I stream one sequencer in to another and try to capture that data, all kinds of unexpected things can happen. I guess I should have been more specific. Does the Electribe retain all of the midi data? Note ties, CCs, shifted notes, etc. I have several sequencers that I like to use and if I could just dump sequences in to the Korg, it would save me having to take out multiple sequencers. Right now I generally use the MPC to load up .mid files or gobble up MIDI streams and it retains nearly everything in the original sequence.
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