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mintjamman · Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:46 pm Post subject: User Manual

I don't know about anyone else but why do Korg not supply a printed user manual with the Pa4x ? I always prefer a printed manual and whilst I realise the manual runs to some 1070 pages ( 535 ) double printed to not supply one for a product at this price point seems a cost cutting policy to me.

While a pdf is useful nothing beats a paper manual in your hand to flick back and forth

Just Saying

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Salto · Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:25 pm Post subject:

LOL..............I printed this at work. HUGE MISTAKE ..............

It will be 5 booklets............

It is sitting on the side of my desk unsure if I will just toss it..............
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mintjamman · Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:57 pm Post subject:

I have already considered getting it printed and yes it would be about 5 books.
That said I already have the manual on my i pad but I prefer the printed form and I like to read a manual as a book away from the instrument where I can just sit a read and bookmark the sections to return as needed.

pdf's save money where a printed manual has cost attached to it, I supposed its the difference between reading a book on a kindle or having the item in your hand.

I prefer the latter

Just Saying
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Sam CA · Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:08 pm Post subject:

That's lots of trees to kill for a manuel that thick! Although I love to hold a real book in my hands, but still I would just use the digital version instead.
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mintjamman · Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:53 am Post subject:

You have hit the nail on the head, Cost !

The main functions of any instrument along with process will not change significantly or leastwise in 35 years of using all brands of keyboards as well as retailing them the situation you describe is one I have not seen. Any updates could be covered by a pdf of any incremental up but still the major functions do not change so I am afraid I dont buy that.
Cost will be the factor here with Korg not saving a forest and in any case the manual could be printed on sustainable media or recycled paper.
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mintjamman · Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:27 pm Post subject:

I dont believe for a minute that the margin to include a printed manual was and is not available. Take for Example when Triton was released, it came with not one but 2 manuals. When a new os came along yet another manual was released by Korg.
Now when I compare prices of a Triton Pro with the Pa4x they are in the same ballpark. For the price Korg set for the Pa4x they could have not only supplied a printed manual but also installed a SSD instead of a low capacity yesterday year HD along with a Higher quality screen, it always seems that in the MI industry manufacturers use technology that is either low cost or on its way out. The Triton for example was marketed with scssi instead of what was standard at the time USB. EDO Ram modules ! Dont misunderstand the Pa4x is very well built and exudes quality, the Keybed is great unlike the current general trend where keybeds are cheap on many instruments. The Pa4x sounds great and I am having great fun with it but I will be printing the manual which is now in progress which suits me better.
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Salto · Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:04 am Post subject:

UPDATE:

Since I had printed all 1068 pages i went to STAPLES and had them bind the Manual into 8 separate coiled booklets....Clear cover really slick

8 Volumes cost me $39....Worth it though so I can actually read the Manual
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karmathanever · Platinum Member Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 10404

How much do the 8 volumes weigh (out of interest)?

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bobb · Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:30 pm Post subject:

My professionally printed (2) volumes weigh approx. 2.5kg - brilliant.
Bob

Salto · Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:29 pm Post subject:

I printed at work so no two sided....
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