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chu_po_ming_sammy
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 Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 5:43 am Post subject: Bass Inversion |
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Hi Friends,
I am Pa3X player,
May I have your advice on how to play those chords like C/D, C/F, C/A C/B flat etc in which bass inversion cannot help?
Thanks!
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check here:
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=92612&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=33
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chu_po_ming_sammy
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| Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Nemik,
But my question is how I can play those chords with non-chord note bass? Example : C/D , C/F, C/A, C/B
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| chu_po_ming_sammy wrote: | Thanks Nemik,
But my question is how I can play those chords with non-chord note bass? Example : C/D , C/F, C/A, C/B
Chu |
You can't.
Arranger play only Bass Inversion with note belong to chord,
what this C/D or C/B ???
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chu_po_ming_sammy
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 12:35 am Post subject: |
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| It is bassline . My Tyros2 can do. I wonder if my PA3X can also do these. |
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So you telling me Tyros2 can play C Major with D bass ?? 
In music terminology how you call this ??
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Sam CA
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 4:15 am Post subject: |
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| Nemik wrote: | ...........
In music terminology how you call this ?? |
C9/D is the same as C/D.
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| I think it's quite simple, with the bass inversion on to play a C/D I would play the chord as such DEGC,and C/F I would play FGCE, the others is simpler C/A is an A minor 7, C/Bb BbCEG |
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| chu_po_ming_sammy wrote: | | how I can play those chords with non-chord note bass? Example : C/D , C/F, C/A, C/B |
The easy way is to use Bass inversion mode and play always the wanted bass note as the lower note of your chord.
Bass inversion mode is inevitable especially for C/B = Cmaj7 (or pure dominant Bb) , where you can't force bass to play 7th
in any other way without disturbing song's harmony !
The other first 3 chords are commonly used by Jazz Musicians on arrangers without Bass inversion in the following way :
C/D = D11 played as DEGAC
C/F = Fmaj9 played as FGACE
C/A = Am7 played as GACE
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| AntonySharmman wrote: | | chu_po_ming_sammy wrote: | | how I can play those chords with non-chord note bass? Example : C/D , C/F, C/A, C/B |
The easy way is to use Bass inversion mode and play always the wanted bass note as the lower note of your chord.
Bass inversion mode is inevitable especially for C/B = Cmaj7 , where you can't force bass to play maj7 in any other
way without disturbing song's harmony !
The other first 3 chords are commonly used by Jazz Musicians on arrangers without Bass inversion in the following way :
C/D = D11 played as DEGAC
C/F = Fmaj9 played as FGACE
C/A = Am7 played as GACE |
@Tony
+100
Now I know, who I need to ask about music techniques 
I'm Happy we got here experienced Music Conductors.
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@Tony
Can you explain what is different between C Major chord and C ( 1+5 ) and C ( 1+8 ), please.
I mean from Arranger side, what Korg exactly play ?
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"+" = always the addition , C(1+5) is C+G = root + 5th with the absence of 3rd so minor or major scale is not defined.
C(1+8) is only octaves = root accordingly , where no harmonic alterations or kind of scale is defined !
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| AntonySharmman wrote: | "+" = always the addition , C(1+5) is C+G = root + 5th with the absence of 3rd so minor or major scale is not defined.
C(1+ is only octaves = root accordingly , where no harmonic alterations or kind of scale is defined ! |
Thanks Tony.
I'm working on some style and I like to use those chords for extra CV on variations, is very easy play them on Expert Mode.
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