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Timo · Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:28 am Post subject:

Although many native Americans quote Bush as being "pro-American", whatever that's supposed to imply, I actually think Bush is doing a collosal diservice to the American people.

I think many American civilians are actually oblivious as to how the whole of the rest of the world perceives their government (no fault lies with the civilians, but the American media certainly doesn't help). And for those who can't understand it fully, it has an unfortunate direct consequential spin-off - a disliked perception of 'America' as a whole. Tarred with the same brush, etc..
At an especially sensitive time, where the American goverment is probably at the most disliked point yet, as perceived by non-Americans on the world-stage, Bush is compounding the problem by actually 'isolating' America totally away from the rest of the world furthermore, and is continuing to do so. IMHO, that can't be a good thing, surely.

Most of us can see the wood through the trees, and don't tarr the rest of America with the actions of the American goverment, and we very much enjoy being amongst American civvies, but, to the Americans, you have to realise your government is doing a massive diservice to you and your fellow natives on the world stage.

McHale · Guest

so sad....

My point is, other countries aren't going to hope for a president that's best for America, they're going to hope for what's best for their own country. I don't expect France or Germany or Russia to want a US President that won't put up with their crap. They want a push over like Kerry. That's why it's irrelevent what some other country thinks. They aren't going to want what's best for America. They're like the UN - anti-American unless it's our products or entertainment.

-Mc

Daz · Retired Joined: 01 Jan 2002 Posts: 10829

Being a Brit ... I don't fully understand the American political system and I wonder just how much difference will it make if Kerry gets in; considering that the senate currently has a Republican majority and would continue to after the presidential elections.

How about this whole situation with Governor McGreevey here in the state of New Jersey ... what the hell is going on there ? Most confusing !

Daz.

Odinmoon · Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:54 am Post subject:

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GregC · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:44 pm Post subject:

McHale- I disagree with your comments about other countries.

Daz, the US president has a huge influence/power on future policy, war making decisions, choosing federal judges, influencing the American population, and launching specific ideology such as anti abortion and anti gay marriage.

In regards to our Congress, they have done a poor job in balancing the
power of a President. Look at the mess and the incredible cost of the war. And think about the $454 billion dollar deficit, with more to follow.
There are numerous domestic issues that are being starved and ignored. I find this destructive.
I believe our Congress needs to develop independant thought and action
based on facts vs ideology and getting re-elected. Surely there are members that speak out like this but we need more of this.
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marcdeben · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:58 pm Post subject:

Hi All,
Being from Massachusettes and have seen Mr. Kerry for abouts 20 years, the man is not worthy of your vote. He talks out both sides of his mouth on just about every issue you can think of. He stands for something today and the next day he is against it. Massachusettes has the highest taxes of just about any state in the US. Nick name Taxachusettes. He votes for every tax increase there is, except to support our armed forces.(very Sad). Please do not let the media tell you otherwise. I've lived hear and have seen it every day. Most of you have not. If he becomes Commander and Chief, we will have taxes up to 50% of our income!!!
Terrorism will continue at an alarming rate. You saw what happened to those poor children in Russia. This must stop! Strengh and a free sociaty in the middle east IMO is the only way to defeat these extremests.
Please my friend, do some research before casting this very important vote, in this most important time.
Peace to all!
Marc

cnegrad · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:23 pm Post subject:

Daz · Retired Joined: 01 Jan 2002 Posts: 10829

Thanks cnegrad ... now that makes a lot more sense ! He had heard the various parts of this story piecemeal and it didn't make a lot of sense.

Daz.

mikee72 · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:29 am Post subject:

I think "we" have some explaining to do. While I can't speak for all of my countrymen, I think it's fair to say the majority of us feel that neither candidate is worthy of the presidency and that this election is a "lesser-of-two-evils" situation. On one hand, we have Kerry, who many people feel doesn't have the balls to do what is necessary to protect the country, and on the other, Bush, who has no problem with making mostly wrong decisions lately. (And yes, I voted for him in '00) The war on terrorism, I believe, is the most divisive issue in the country right now. I believe that a large amount of those favoring Bush are doing so because they don't believe Kerry will keep us safe, and unfortunately, Kerry's voting record does little to reassure us.

We're in a sad state right now.
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mikee72 · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:44 am Post subject:

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Odinmoon · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:18 am Post subject:

Yea Yea Yea good luck Smile

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Timo · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:55 pm Post subject: