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mabcomp Senior Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:28 am Post subject: Roland BK-7M |
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Has anyone used the Roland BK-7M with a PA4X _________________ Pro Singer/Musician for over 30 Years |
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karmathanever Platinum Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:14 am Post subject: |
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I've used one with Nord Stage 2 but can't think of why I would use it with my PA4X.
It is a medium quality arranger module and does have some nice features (similar to Korg's) but it is in a different category in terms of quality.
Its sounds are OK but far from the same class as Korg.
How were you thinking of using it with the PA4X?
Cheers
Pete _________________ PA4X-76, Karma, WaveDrum GE, Fantom 8 EX
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Bachus Platinum Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:10 am Post subject: |
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BK7m is only medicore quallity, it does not add much to the pa4x if anything..
If you want to add the aroland sound, the integra7 module would be a very nice way..
If you want to add arranger functionallity, the Ketron SD40 module is the only thing that would actually add something to the pa4x.. |
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karmathanever Platinum Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Hi Bachus
Speak to me more (please) about the SD40
Thanks
Pete _________________ PA4X-76, Karma, WaveDrum GE, Fantom 8 EX
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mabcomp Senior Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:36 am Post subject: BK-7M |
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In reply to the comments I also play Guitar and Sing so primarily I was just going to use it as an independent backing device while playing guitar or singing. I was just curious as to how it sits with the PA4X in terms of compatibility and sound. _________________ Pro Singer/Musician for over 30 Years |
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mabcomp Senior Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:39 am Post subject: Re: BK-7M |
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mabcomp wrote: | In reply to the comments I also play Guitar and Sing so primarily I was just going to use it as an independent backing device while playing guitar or singing. I was just curious as to how it sits with the PA4X in terms of compatibility and sound. | I am surprised that its described as medium quality as it appears to have great reviews everywhere and still costs a lot of money. That being said its now discontinued and its almost impossible to get an FC-7 Foot Controller in the UK. (Anyone got one?) _________________ Pro Singer/Musician for over 30 Years |
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Bachus Platinum Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: BK-7M |
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mabcomp wrote: | In reply to the comments I also play Guitar and Sing so primarily I was just going to use it as an independent backing device while playing guitar or singing. I was just curious as to how it sits with the PA4X in terms of compatibility and sound. |
Take a look at the ketron MidJPro... For guitar players this is a dream come true... Same high emd soundquallity as the SD40, yet with more features for guitar players, including a whole effects chain.. |
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Bachus Platinum Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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karmathanever wrote: | Hi Bachus
Speak to me more (please) about the SD40
Thanks
Pete |
Incredible box....
-less then 2 kg
-7" touchscreen with very friendly user interface
-perfect for adding styles to an accordeon, synth, organ, workstation ( anything that does not have styles)
- best sounding styles available (even better then the pa4x) my personal experience
-great sets of sounds, very very usefull
- top knotch midi/song player..
Yet still when you have a pa4x, i dont see any reason why anyone would love to add even more styles to it.. As the pa4x styles come very close..
However if you have only a Kronos, and want to add some styles to it for live gigs, this 2kg weighting unit is the way to go...
My verdict over this SD40 unit, if it had multipads, it would have been near to perfect ... |
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rockola
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: BK-7M |
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Quote: | I am surprised that its described as medium quality as it appears to have great reviews everywhere and still costs a lot of money. That being said its now discontinued and its almost impossible to get an FC-7 Foot Controller in the UK. (Anyone got one?) |
I have a BK-7M, a Roland stand and an FC-7 foot controller. The BK-7M hasn't been discontinued although the FC-7 is no longer produced.
For the price, I think it's pretty good but, obviously, not in the same league as the PA4X. I paid £500 for the BK "new" and £49 for a used FC-7 on Ebay about two years ago. At the time, I wanted to add to the sounds and styles available to me from my PA80 and I couldn't afford a PA3x. For that outlay I got the following:-
1,000-plus sounds, 57 drum kits, 128-voice polyphony
Over 400 high-quality music styles, each with four one-touch settings
999 built-in Songbook settings with capacity to store a further 9000 to a USB storage device.
SMF and MP3 file playback via onboard USB connector
Audio recording in WAV format directly to connected USB storage device
Cover function for SMFs and Music Styles
Composite Video Out to display Lyrics and/or Chord Symbols on external display.
Having been a Korg iSeries and PA owner since the 1980's, I have found the Roland OS quite difficult to get my head around. The unit itself is quite "clunky" but is much improved by the use of the "free" BKPartner iPad app.
The BK-7M is a decent little unit which has broadened my horizons. In my opinion, it has some excellent sounds and styles but was probably designed with the midi accordionist in mind.
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mabcomp Senior Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: BK-7M |
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Bachus wrote: | mabcomp wrote: | In reply to the comments I also play Guitar and Sing so primarily I was just going to use it as an independent backing device while playing guitar or singing. I was just curious as to how it sits with the PA4X in terms of compatibility and sound. |
Take a look at the ketron MidJPro... For guitar players this is a dream come true... Same high emd soundquallity as the SD40, yet with more features for guitar players, including a whole effects chain.. |
But the price is way way more than the BK-7M _________________ Pro Singer/Musician for over 30 Years |
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mabcomp Senior Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: BK-7M |
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mabcomp wrote: | Bachus wrote: | mabcomp wrote: | In reply to the comments I also play Guitar and Sing so primarily I was just going to use it as an independent backing device while playing guitar or singing. I was just curious as to how it sits with the PA4X in terms of compatibility and sound. |
Take a look at the ketron MidJPro... For guitar players this is a dream come true... Same high emd soundquallity as the SD40, yet with more features for guitar players, including a whole effects chain.. |
But the price is way way more than the BK-7M |
I did a Google search for an SD40 and also in Ebay and it found nothing. _________________ Pro Singer/Musician for over 30 Years |
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Bachus Platinum Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: BK-7M |
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mabcomp wrote: | mabcomp wrote: | Bachus wrote: | mabcomp wrote: | In reply to the comments I also play Guitar and Sing so primarily I was just going to use it as an independent backing device while playing guitar or singing. I was just curious as to how it sits with the PA4X in terms of compatibility and sound. |
Take a look at the ketron MidJPro... For guitar players this is a dream come true... Same high emd soundquallity as the SD40, yet with more features for guitar players, including a whole effects chain.. |
But the price is way way more than the BK-7M |
I did a Google search for an SD40 and also in Ebay and it found nothing. |
Its just like in real life, you get what you pay for....
https://youtu.be/zwFVnRHyrPA
The Ketron SD40 only recently released and is for sale at a select number of shops in europe and soon in the states.
https://www.thomann.de/nl/ketron_sd_40.htm?ref=search_prv_6 |
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Elektroman Full Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:09 am Post subject: |
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I have used the BKM7 with my MIDI accordion for a long time. It is awesome, for a accordion player and others such as for a guitar player... Great unit.
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I don't see how it would benefit hooking it up to the pa3x.
Sound for sound comparo is just not there. The PA3X sounds are worlds away from the Roland unit. Yes I have had my Pa3X all along and play them through the same mixer / PA. _________________ Korg Hardware: PA3X / K61P |
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mabcomp Senior Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:02 pm Post subject: Thank you |
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Thanks for that, I do intend using it primarily for the Guitar. I just thought it may also add a lot of backings to the PA4X so theres even more choice. _________________ Pro Singer/Musician for over 30 Years |
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mabcomp Senior Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:25 am Post subject: BK-7M |
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How does it work with the Guitar? Does it have to be a Midi Guitar because otherwise how do the Chords change? Does it work like a Voice Live 3? _________________ Pro Singer/Musician for over 30 Years |
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