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enigmahack Approved Merchant
Joined: 04 Aug 2009 Posts: 727 Location: Moncton, NB, CANADA (Eh?)
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:51 pm Post subject: 80's/90's Performance pack? |
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I'm going to be putting together a performance pack of 80's and 90's sounds, similar to the classic synths vol 1+2, but wanted to get some input from people here.
It'd likely be a combination of sounds from the AL-1 and HD-1 engines, and the Combi's would be live performance Combi's that allow you to play the whole song.
I'm thinking probably in the order of 50-60 songs from beginning to end, and however many combi's and programs that would take. The only thing I couldn't include I would suspect would be song-specific samples, sampled loops and such unless it were from a specific synth. (For example, the opening loop to Sexual Healing, since it was done on a TB808)
So that said, I'm not sure what kind of price to ask for something like this, nor what specific kinds of features and design decisions and what songs! people would want?
There's a bunch in there already like Jump, Tom Sawyer and so on, so I'm thinking I would stray away from those but maybe songs that are still quite popular/played often.
Thoughts/ideas? I'd love to put this together but I'm curious about the community feedback and the kinds of things they'd like to see. _________________ Korg Kronos 88 2, Korg Kronos 73, Kurzweil K2600S
Sound developer, custom sound designer and trainer/Kronos support - www.audora.ca for details! |
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drama1 Platinum Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 662
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Looking forward to this. |
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AdDeRoo Platinum Member
Joined: 20 May 2009 Posts: 524 Location: Northern Italy
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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I'd be very interested in that!!!
Some of my suggestions: Nightshift, Sexual Healing, Crocodile Rock, Good Times, Le Freak, Money's too tight to mention
Might come with some more suggestions _________________ Ad
Current gear : Korg Kronos 88 (SN 0979) / Nektar LX88+ / Korg PA2X / Kurzweil K2500R / Korg Nanopad2 / Neo Ventilator / Akai EWI USB / Cantabile / Reaper / Cakewalk / Reason / way too many VST's |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: 80's/90's Performance pack? |
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enigmahack wrote: | I'm going to be putting together a performance pack of 80's and 90's sounds, similar to the classic synths vol 1+2, but wanted to get some input from people here.
It'd likely be a combination of sounds from the AL-1 and HD-1 engines, and the Combi's would be live performance Combi's that allow you to play the whole song.
I'm thinking probably in the order of 50-60 songs from beginning to end, and however many combi's and programs that would take. The only thing I couldn't include I would suspect would be song-specific samples, sampled loops and such unless it were from a specific synth. (For example, the opening loop to Sexual Healing, since it was done on a TB808)
So that said, I'm not sure what kind of price to ask for something like this, nor what specific kinds of features and design decisions and what songs! people would want?
There's a bunch in there already like Jump, Tom Sawyer and so on, so I'm thinking I would stray away from those but maybe songs that are still quite popular/played often.
Thoughts/ideas? I'd love to put this together but I'm curious about the community feedback and the kinds of things they'd like to see. |
are you going to add the drum parts and get them close to the tune ? _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
Achieve your musical dreams
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lunaluna Full Member
Joined: 09 Jun 2010 Posts: 139
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Your work is top notch I will definitely be buying .
A few suggestions .
Rebel Yell - Billy Idol
It's my Life - Bon Jovi
DOA - Bon Jovi
Hungry Like Wolf - Duran Duran
Borderline - Madonna
Purple Rain - Prince
Working for the weekend - Loverboy
Anything from Van Halen/Sammy Hagar 5150 album |
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enigmahack Approved Merchant
Joined: 04 Aug 2009 Posts: 727 Location: Moncton, NB, CANADA (Eh?)
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: 80's/90's Performance pack? |
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GregC wrote: |
are you going to add the drum parts and get them close to the tune ? |
When possible, definitely. _________________ Korg Kronos 88 2, Korg Kronos 73, Kurzweil K2600S
Sound developer, custom sound designer and trainer/Kronos support - www.audora.ca for details! |
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studio429 Junior Member
Joined: 06 Oct 2014 Posts: 59 Location: West Midlands, UK
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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I would definitely be interested! Some suggestions :
Queen - Radio Ga Ga (got a near perfect combi, I just lack the 'Machines' noise from the live cut which is essentially the Poly Rhythms programme from the Roland Jupiter
Duran Duran - The Reflex
Giorgio Moroder / Phil Oakey - Together In Electric Dreams _________________ W : www.theusualsuspectsuk.com
F : www.facebook.com/theusualsuspectsbanduk
One of the top UK female fronted rock / pop covers bands
Kronos 88 / Kronos 73 |
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Sweat Full Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2011 Posts: 179 Location: Live Music Capital of the World
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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I think some of your best customers may be keyboardists in cover bands. So of course, more coverband keyboardists will desire your pack if it contains the tunes that most of these variety groups are covering.
As we know, synths practically defined 80's pop music. Although there are already 80's sound packs, you could never have enough. Even if a tune already exists in another pack, YOUR version may nail it better. |
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enigmahack Approved Merchant
Joined: 04 Aug 2009 Posts: 727 Location: Moncton, NB, CANADA (Eh?)
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Sweat wrote: | I think some of your best customers may be keyboardists in cover bands. So of course, more coverband keyboardists will desire your pack if it contains the tunes that most of these variety groups are covering.
As we know, synths practically defined 80's pop music. Although there are already 80's sound packs, you could never have enough. Even if a tune already exists in another pack, YOUR version may nail it better. |
Thanks for that - Yes, that's exactly my thinking too. Also, it's one thing to have one signature sound, but some songs use several or don't quite capture the sound especially in a mix. I want to provide the entire performance sound so that you could literally show up to a gig with my sounds and play the whole song(s).
The big thing now is choosing the top 50-60 songs to cover. Some of them I actually have already, so it'll afford me time to work on other ones that might be a little more tricky or specific.
And then the next question is of asking price. I'll try and get the sounds/songs together first and work out the price later on. _________________ Korg Kronos 88 2, Korg Kronos 73, Kurzweil K2600S
Sound developer, custom sound designer and trainer/Kronos support - www.audora.ca for details! |
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Hooked On Sonics Full Member
Joined: 06 May 2015 Posts: 219 Location: Garden State
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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This solo starting at 2:15 would be cool if possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGKiVHVCHVc
Also:
Collins - In the Air
Zeppelin - Trampled Under Foot and In The Light
Supertramp - Bloody Well Right and Dreamer
Enya - Boadicea
Journey - Don't Stop Believin
Van Halen - Right Now
ELP - Karn Evil 9
Irene Cara - Flashdance
The Human League - Don't You Want Me
Jefferson Starship - JANE _________________ Korg Kronos II - Instant Karma's Gonna Get You, Synth Wars - The Rise of the KARP 2600, OBX8 Kenobi - The Return of the Synth, KARP & Odyessey, Moog One - The Poly Menace, Vintage 2016 Model D, Voyager of Sinbad XL, Fooger Family of Six, Three Mothers Like No Others, Naboo Royal MiniTaur, MoogClaraVox, Criklon V2, in living color, Elektron RytmII Avenue, Neuman U67 |
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keego Senior Member
Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 329 Location: Liverpool UK
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Pink Floyd - Run Like Hell Solo
Genesis - Mama
Jeff Wayne - Eve of the War
Marillion - Script for a Jesters Tear
Queen - Who Wants to Live Forever
Yes - And You and I (MiniMoog Lead Sound) 70s I know _________________ Current Arsenal:
Kronos 61, Kurzweil PC3K6, Nord Stage 3, Yamaha MOXF8, Muse Receptor 2+, Mainstage
Previous:
Korg:X5D,Wavestation, N364, Trinity,Triton Classic,Triton Studio, Korg M3 61 w/ EXB-Radias
Ensoniq:TS12, SD1, ASR10
Roland:XP10, JD-800, Roland XV88, A90ex
Kurzweil:K2500RS, K2661, PC3
Nord: Electro 3 |
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navydave Senior Member
Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 414 Location: Turner, ME USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Foreigner - Waiting for a Girl, That Was Yesterday
Thomas Dolby - Blinded Me With Science
Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus, Enjoy The Silence
Yazoo - Don't Go, Situation
Gary Numan - Cars, Are Friends Electric? _________________ Korg Kronos-61, Korg Triton Le-61, Korg R-3, Alesis Vortex, Edirol PCR-M80, Yamaha Motif XF-61, Roland JV-1080, Roland D-5, E-MU Classic Keys, Kawai Q-80 Sequencer, iPad Pro 9.7, Roland A-49 |
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enigmahack Approved Merchant
Joined: 04 Aug 2009 Posts: 727 Location: Moncton, NB, CANADA (Eh?)
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Great suggestions everyone so far - keep 'em coming!
Please also keep in mind I want to program the performance pack, which means not just one or two sounds, but I want to program the setlists to be able to perform the entire song from beginning to end. Also, I'd like to stray away from songs that only have one sound. For example, Smoke on the Water is a distorted organ basically the whole song. I wouldn't want to include that as a song necessarily, only because it's just one sound.
A couple that I want to add on my own as well are
Dire Straits - Money for Nothing
Jefferson Starship - We Built This City (I enjoy this song from a synth aspect because there's a LOT going on, but it never was a huge song either and would want to put in sounds that people would use)
A couple Journey songs
Bon Jovi stuff
Toto-Africa
These are just a few I want to do for sure, but keep the songs coming in and I'll compile a list and start getting to work right after the new year! _________________ Korg Kronos 88 2, Korg Kronos 73, Kurzweil K2600S
Sound developer, custom sound designer and trainer/Kronos support - www.audora.ca for details! |
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lunaluna Full Member
Joined: 09 Jun 2010 Posts: 139
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Other Suggestions
Only the Lonely EP – The Motels
I’LL WAIT – Van Halen
Freeze frame – J Geils Band
You Might Think – The Cars
When Doves cry - Prince
Everybody wants to rule the World – Tears for Fears |
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mikeyd Senior Member
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 390 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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How about some more conventional type patches such as Brass Sections from the likes of Earth Wind and Fire, Tower of Power, etc.? Korg attempted some of these and I think they missed the mark on most of them. But there is nothing, at least that I've seen from any 3rd parties that sound full, rounded, and accurate for that genre. They'd have to be imo mono if you were going to target cover bands and I think that's the problem. When using them live they always sound thin. I have yet to really find anything that sounds near a "fat " section when play live even with tweaking and I'm not that good of a programmer although I've tried.
Really looking forward to seeing what you come up with! Thanks for putting in the effort! |
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