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Putting an iPad output in my decent Juno DS-88 (Roland, cheaper than 1000 Dollar), instantly I hear the iPad sound.
When I put in a iPad output in my very expensive Kronos X (line -switch), I cannot hear the iPad sound. Even after consulting the Kronos manual, I don't find the solution.
Can you help?

When I put a mike (mike switch) in the Kronos, I only hear a bad and hidden voice sound.
What to do? I like a clear and easy to reach sound contact.
Why is it so complicated using the Kronos ... which I still bought for more than 24 months ago as a quality & total solution packet? It's terrific despite the quality sounds and hundreds of internal possibilities.

I like to plead for a MUCH more user friendly approach of the Korg crew that occupies the updating of Kronos OS.
Despite manuals and Youtube help, it is a very big dedication to progress in terms of Kronos management.
In the last update of the Kronos OS, I adore the intuitive split and layer window (display).
Thanks, Korg, finally. Korg has to put energy working on a very much more intuitive use.

How I can approach the Kronos crew to suggest many other intuitive pages?
For example: when you are in the flow on the split- en layer page, I miss a simple audio rec & save button in this Split and layer page near the fantastic button that let you save a combi set on a very intuitive way.
As musician ( with a master degree) I don't need a machine that can do all on the most difficult way. I like to create music and like to use the Kronos platform as an orchestral tool, not like a frustration issue.

Can you help?

Thanks in advance.

Paul

[enigmahack]

Something as complicated as the Kronos (with it's myriad of options) is going to be difficult to use in one form or another. There are things that I'm not happy with but understand their design decision.

As for your audio input - you must assign a bus for the audio to be routed to. You can do this under:

Global Mode, then the "Audio" tab.

In here, you must assign the audio input to belong to a bus or insert. The top dropdown under Input can be changed to something else such as IFX12 or a specific bus. Personally, I use IFX12 since most programs and Combi's don't have effects on that unless it's a stereo limiter.

Then you can pan the audio for that channel if it's not a monophonic source.

Try that though, hopefully this helps.
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[GregC]

[19naia]

Like said above, there are so many options and routes to go about things in kronos, that something as simple as sending sound input is waiting for you to decide if to send the signal out through L/R main, 1&2 or 3&4 or to send it via IFX and then out. Maybe even more options.
Global is the default audio setting for all modes with access to audio set up, but you get the option to do a unique audio page setup for each program, combi and song. Just deselect "use global" audio set up. Of course you will have to know how to set up the audio page wether it be in global or program, combi and song mode. Sampling mode as well.

This type of issue comes up not just in audio page function and a simple solution used, is to find an available program or combi or song and set the audio page up in there as you want it and save the program or combi or song as you want it.

Setting up IFX setups like Vocoder can be more confusing than your basic audio page routing as it involves audio page setup and IFX routing. So it is easier to just select an open program, combi or song slot to set up a vocoder performance and save it under the name Vocoder setup. Then every time you need a vocoder, just call up the saved vocoder program. There are a few places that use audio input, such as some synth engines and IFX. The rest are Sequencer mode audio tracks and then sampling page. Flexible setup is very useful across the board. Just waiting for you to decide what setup.

Intuitive is great but the operative term seems to be "simplistic".
This type of issue always reminds me of the term "Open Architechture" that was part of the OASYS acronym. Basically Kronos is OASYS plus and minus a few things where it counts, especially the minus in the price.
When you are dealing with a powerful and versatile machine with very good adaptability, you will see that open architechture is actually ingeniously intuitive, intuitive on a level of creativity many of us are still waiting to catch on to.
My view may be biased in that i got Kronos to be challenge as much as i did to take my music to new growth. Maybe where i want to simplify my life i would be different, but after getting as far as i have in learning kronos, i am starting to believe that kronos has simplified many things for me. It was complicated getting to this level of simplicity and i still have more complication to cover.

This youtube video tutorial is a quick and easy starter .
https://youtu.be/G__AiKnjcYk

There is gain at the end of the pain. Enjoy the outcome, it is good stuff.

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[19naia]

Here is another youtube video that is a good exploration of sending sound out, from in tracks or combi. Same thing as involved in audio page for sending input sound through to any of the output options. Off is also an option and thats the option for silence/no sound out.

https://youtu.be/wp0Pt1bLbWU

I think the two videos will be enough clarification to make work more intuitive on kronos.

[burningbusch]

You don't say what you're trying to do with the iPad, but if for example you want to play iPad instruments from the Kronos and have the sound come back into the Kronos it's very easy. Connect the two devices with a USB cable (connector kit). MIDI will go out of the Kronos and audio back in. In the audio section of the program make sure USB is active and sent l/r output.

Busch.
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[jones]

[jones]

It's taken me 2 yrs to even begin getting into the kronos .
I bought omnisphere at the same time, it's simpler to use and does what I need mostly.
Kronos is an immersion game, I find I have to be all in or nothing makes sense.

[Joe Gerardi]

The Juno-DS88 is a wonderful keyboard, but it's designed for tease of use and a lower level of keyboard knowledge. it's designed to throw up on a stand and play. I want to get one as my 88-note keyboard so I can retire my Juno-Stage.

That said, the Kronos is far more complicated, and therefore requires more serious study. It's for more dedicated musicians that need far more out of a keyboard, and because of that, in order to do more, it has far deeper menus.

I am a pilot. I can pretty much fly any 1-engine piston airplane out there today- think of those as the DS88. But put me into a multi-engine fighter jet, and I can't even start the engines. Think of those as the Kronos. Both accomplish the same task, but have completely different work flows.

My only answer to you is to crack the manuals, and read up.

A lot.

..Joe
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[Liviou2004]

[GregC]

[jones]