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[karmathanever]

Hi everyone,

I'm now a member of the "Freezing Club!!"

I was able to reproduce the problem too - let me explain:-
I was helping a colleague over the phone today to set up and load a SET into his new PA4X.
It is a SET that we both purchased a long while ago from a reputable vendor who is very experienced with Korg arrangers and whom you all know.
I used this SET on my PA2XPro, PA3X and now my PA4X and had never encountered any problems
This SET was purely SOUNDs (with samples) so there were only 3 folders inside the SET (SOUNDS, PCM & MULTISMP)
Loading the whole SET put the SOUNDS in USER BANK 1 by default and all samples loaded and played perfectly.

So today whilst I was helping my friend load up this SET (developed on the PA1X originally), I came across something interesting.
I was anxious to remove and tidy up some of the SOUNDs in this BANK USER-1 and as you know you can do this by highlighting the SOUNDs to remove etc... and then using the drop down menu to delete.

Well, whilst doing this I noticed that 4 of the USER 1 "pages" were empty which was fine.
Normal empty SOUNDS appear with 3 dashes "- - -"
However 2 of these empty pages (16 SOUNDs in total) showed each SOUND as completely blank (no dashes).
When I tried to do things with any of these completely blank entries my PA4X instantly froze.
Reloaded the SET and tried a few different things etc... but freezing continued.
Even though this SET was clearly perfect on the previous arrangers, it definitely was not on my PA4X.

I do not know if this "blank" entry is an issue elsewhere (STYLEs etc) but obviously it has something to do with the new OS and banks structures.

If this has been reported before, I apologise - I couldn't find another reference to it so here it is.

Maybe something to watch out for

Cheers

Pete

P.S. I did manage to get it tidied up and re-saved the SET to avoid any future problems.
I am on 1.2.4 but this also occurred on 1.2.1
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[Snoopy]

Hi Pete,

so the "freezing" only occurs, when using "non-genuine-Korg-stuff" ?

And that stuff isn´t developed especially for PA4X but for "older" Keyboards ?

So don´t blame Korg for it...

The PA4X has a different "inner-structure" than PA3X, 2X and, of course, 1X.

I´m with you that "old things" SHOULD work on new keys but you couldn´t claim that it works for sure. .

Anyway, the key shouldn´t "freeeze" but may refuse to play that sounds / sets / styles etc...
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[D575]

Hi Pete welcome to the club...... joking aside I will add your findings to my notes I am keeping here, sorry to here you have stumbled into this freezing zone but interesting to here your findings not sure it matches my action but certainly raises some questions ??? So pending a report back from korg concerning my back up file it will be interesting to compare any correlations between other members in the freezing club in are pursuit to nail this problem down once and for all..hopefully!....the strange thing is I have had a good weekend playing pa4x and not a peep, but last weekend twice this issue raised its Ugly Head ...to be continued I guess 😊... (Yes I'm still smiling.. just)
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[BR]

[karmathanever]

[triton_lover]

Linux is generally very stable and suitable for embedded devices. How korg managed to create such an unstable linux based software?

Those problems can probably be solved with easy patch fixes, why korg delays so much to release an update?

[karmathanever]

[triton_lover]

[mstodola]

[karmathanever]

Hi guys

Thanks for your comments.

My point was to hopefully (and maybe) HELP someone having freezing problems...

At least now have look for any "blank" slots (without those 3 dashes) that may be close to what you are doing - if you are doing anything with these you may well get frozen up.

Cheers

Pete
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PA4X-76, Karma, WaveDrum GE, Fantom 8 EX
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## Please stay safe ##
...and play lots of music
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[mstodola]

Hi Pete,
I think I have had the same problem with older Styles I've gotten from the internet. It is strange. I also have tried loading a Pa3x styles distro and the distro says that there are more styles than actually get loaded. I look at the files and they exist, but somehow the Pa4x won't load them. But I've learned the format for creating .SET folders from the computer. It's a good way to set up a USB using the computer.

But I think Korg could do better with the way they handle some of their interrupts and exceptions. Going into never, never land and locking up shows that something was missed. Like all I guess I would like to hear from Korg more. They won't even say that they are working to fix anything.
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[musiccankill]

Well i am almost sure it is not a kernel panic but an OPOS app crash as power off button still works (and this one isn't controlled by OPOS but kernel itself)...
So it is not a Linux problem but an app specific one (not only this but almost all the problems).
Also the distro is named Andoria (i am unable to find anything about that on the net though) and must have many kernel patches, not a default 2.6.32 kernel...
I am not going to get into more details though.I just wanted to clear things up as much as i can

[karmathanever]