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richmart



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:55 am    Post subject: Newbie Question Reply with quote

Used to use a Korg Triton Le. Could do it blindfolded. Not so the Kross. It's
been sitting in my studio for 3 years and I'm finally ready to figure it out. I would like to know how to make a backing track for a song. (Ipanema). DO I use the step sequencer or the sequencer. How do I insert riffs and such? Presume that I don't play drums and can't make up the patterns myself. Thanks in advance. Rick
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OpAmp
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Using the step sequencer, you can easily make a drum pattern, but that's about it then. It will always repeat that same pattern.
Using the Drum Track functionality, you can create several patterns, but only 1 can be used within a program, combi or song. AKAIK there is no way to combine different patterns into a song.

So if you need a simple looping drum pattern, it's ok. For a more complex drumtrack, you will need to record it into a track of the sequencer.

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richmart



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks OpAmp. I guess nobody uses riffs in today's music. Thanks for your effort. RAD
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Paranoid Android



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:12 pm    Post subject: How does it compare? Reply with quote

How does the Korg Cross compare to the old X3, which I'm looking to replace?
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richmart



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never used the X3. Don't let the fact that I am having trouble learning this prevent you from looking at the Kross. Check out youtube. RAD
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say the Kross is a good candidate for replacing a X3. On some aspects it will be an upgrade compared to the X3.

Have fun.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, guys - apparently, the Kross's sound generator is an improvement on the X3.
I liked the sequencer on the X3.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no expert on sequencing on the Kross, but I'd say just start recording parts and see what happens.

It's pretty easy to set up the Kross to record- just pick a preset or combination (you probably want a combo) and hit Record to set up to record.

Now all the fiddly stuff is very fiddly, such as punching in and editing the tracks after the fact. But for just playing a track at a time it works great. Some things are self explanatory on the Kross, other things are not at all.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info. I'll give it my best. RAD
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Paranoid Android



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much better is the Krome than the Cross, please?
Thanks! Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just compare some specs

Krome
* Color LCD touchscreen
* 120 voices
* 3.8 GB samples (some more stereo multi samples, a lot more drumsamples, both mono and stereo) - Not clear to me how much better e.g. the piano sample is.
* EDS-X engine - but that difference is subtle I think
* 3 band eq in the program chain
* 193 effects with presets
* 4 realtime control knobs
* joystick
* patterns (RPPR) (not sure how this works)
* No audio IN
* ...

Kross
* BW screen
* 80 voices
* 112 MB samples
* EDS-i engine
* 134 effects - not all can be used as insert or master
* no realtime controls
* pitch and modwheel
* step sequencer
* audio recorder

Ok, the Krome seems better on paper, but it depends what you want to do and whether your budget allows the step up.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, OpAmp.
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Spotnik



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case anyone is still interested, you can record your step sequences (on Trck 16), and then if you want to build a song, copy the first recording to an empty track, then create a new step sequence (a variation of the first,
presumably), then append that to the first, or copy to another empty track temporarily while you build any remaining sequences. Using all the copy-paste-insert-append, etc. functions, eventually your completed sequence will be on one track. The documentation doesn't mention anything about recording step sequences, but it's a pretty quick way to build a drum track. The only problem witht his is that Track 16 os dedicated to the step sequencer, so you really only have 15 tracks at our disposal.
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