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Mersip Junior Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:36 pm Post subject: Using Foot Pedal for externally triggered sounds |
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I have my TR76 set up as a slave keyboard, most of the time I use it to trigger sounds on the Kronos.
For example, in Combi I use the TR (which is set to Midi channel 2) to trigger organ sounds on the Kronos. Some of these sounds have a rotary effect built into the Programme, as well as a second rotary IFX (thanks to other comments in this Forum, this creates a really full rotary sound).
When in Programme mode, I use the foot pedal to control both rotary effects (the in-programme effect and the IFX). This works really well.
When I create a Combi using this organ sound, if I am using the Kronos to trigger the sound (Gch) the foot pedal works fine, again controlling both the in-programme rotary effect and the IFX effect. However, if I trigger the organ through the TR, I am only able to control the IFX rotary with the foot pedal. I can no longer control the in-programme rotary effect.
I know that one way to solve this problem is to have Karma Thru turned on, but of course this means the organ sound is also triggered by the Kronos. I can't always do this as I have another sound (eg piano) triggered by the Kronos.
Is there any other way to get the foot pedal to control the in-programme effect when the sound is being triggered by an external source?
Thanks _________________ Peter
Kronos2 73 and TR-76
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ronnfigg Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Are you using a footswitch connected to the TR when it is driving the Kronos? _________________ "To me the synthesizer was always a source of new sounds that musicians could use to expand the range of possibilities for making music."
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:17 am Post subject: |
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The foot pedal is attached to the Kronos. I use it as a source for IFX, for example rotary and volume, depending on the sound. I don't really want to attach another pedal (I already have a foot switch and damper pedal. _________________ Peter
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ronnfigg Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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I have a Hammond XK-1 MIDI'd up to drive the engines on the K when needed. I use MIDI Ch 15. When I do this the pitch and mod wheels on the Hammond control the K and the same controls on the K do nothing. So I imagine your K/RE should work the same way. How about this? Put a splitter (physical- one female to 2 male TS) on your footswitch (since you don't want to add another pedal). Then make the proper assignments on your TR & K. Since they are both Korg products there shouldn't be too many snags. You can always use the MIDI filters if there are weird things that crop up. If nothing else try the switch on just your TR to verify that it's working this way. _________________ "To me the synthesizer was always a source of new sounds that musicians could use to expand the range of possibilities for making music."
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ronnfigg Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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PS- I just noticed that you said you are using a foot pedal to control these functions. All that is needed to switch the rotary effect is a simple foot switch. _________________ "To me the synthesizer was always a source of new sounds that musicians could use to expand the range of possibilities for making music."
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Mersip Junior Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Ronnfigg, using a splitter is something I hadn't thought of. I'll give that a go. Given how many cords I already have around the back, I was hoping to be able to achieve this through something in the software.
Thanks also for the comment on the foot switch. I use that to move between Combis and Progs in Setlist. As that's a global setting, I can't then use it for the rotary effect. I could assign a switch to the rotary as well, but would like to keep both hands on the keys. _________________ Peter
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ronnfigg Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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On occasion I use Aftertouch to toggle rotary speed. No foot or quick hand gestures required. Your hands are already there. As far as cabling goes- loom up your MIDI, controller and audio cables, label the business ends. No more wrapping cables at the end of the night. A pedalboard works great too. _________________ "To me the synthesizer was always a source of new sounds that musicians could use to expand the range of possibilities for making music."
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