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Derek Cook Approved Merchant
Joined: 20 Jul 2014 Posts: 1279 Location: Wales, UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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My advice is to draw up a short list of keyboards and go and try them all, as all of our opinions will be subjective based on our experience and opinions, not yours.
I researched the Kronos, found a local store and went to try it. After a quick intro, I was left alone for an hour to fiddle with it, try the sounds, check out the different engines. An hour later I walked out with it. But I could not tell if it was for me just from advice and reviews - that got me to the "I want to try one out" point.
I agree with some of the points above that there are probably better one trick ponies if you only wish to do one trick, but if you want a versatile all rounder as a standalone instrument, then I still think the Kronos is hard to beat. _________________ Derek Cook - Java Developer
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Derek Cook wrote: |
I agree with some of the points above that there are probably better one trick ponies if you only wish to one trick, but if you want a versatile all rounder as a standalone instrument, then I still think the Kronos is hard to beat. |
Thats mostly how I analyze.
Its to easy to pick apart a 6 yr old complex W/s and say ' this software or module is easier' than this Kronos feature or ' this software is better to record on ' than the SEQ.
The picky approach seems to avoid the bigger picture- you have to pile up 5-10 different current products to match the important feature list of the Kronos.
Then a person has to invest a bunch of time to learn and make those 5-10 current products play nice together.
Nothing wrong with trying to bundle a bunch of current and very strong products together with a midi keyboard. its a custom approach.
Personally, I don't chase every new product. I spend my time learning new music , creating covers/originals.
On the Kronos. Seems to get the job done and then some. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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amit Approved Merchant
Joined: 13 Jul 2015 Posts: 825 Location: New Delhi, India
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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As long s your are willing to invest time learning, Kronos will never disappoint you.
Good thing for you is that since you don't come from some other workstations and thus have fresh mind, learning kronos (or korg architecture) would likely be much easier.
One thing to remember is that you don't need to know all of it at once. I still dont know a dime worth of the some of the piano and str-1 engine.
Learn what you need to know first to get going and then you can venture deep. (I read a lot of old threads on these forums as there is a wealth of information here) _________________ DX7-MOD-7 Patches | Korg Related Content
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JPROBERTLA Senior Member
Joined: 04 Jul 2011 Posts: 483 Location: New Orleans
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Based on what you said you needed it for, it is not that difficult to learn and apply those processes. I have been playing for over 40 years and have had 35+ keyboards - none remotely compare to the Kronos. I bought my second one 2 years ago. I only use about 40% of its capabilities; but thats all I need.
Sound design and editing is (to me) the most challenging aspect of the Kronos, or just about any keyboard. I have used Korg keyboards almost exclusively since the O1W/fd. The basic UI on that keyboard, those in between, and the Kronos are pretty much standardized but expanded. This is Korg's concept and is likely to continue. So going forward the learning curve is minimized.
Sound wise it is extemely versatile and completes with or exceeds just about anything else out there right now. If you like the way if plays (keybed feel); thats important. Just be aware that a replacement is likely in the next couple of years. _________________ JP
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Bertotti Platinum Member
Joined: 10 Jul 2010 Posts: 3384 Location: Middle of nowhere
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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The OP may or may not be able ti try ahead if time. Where I live it was a gamble, there is nothing like a Kronos where I live to try same with the Arp, Minitaur, Minilogue. Features and wants and need lists are great but sometimes it is a leap of faith. |
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Derek Cook Approved Merchant
Joined: 20 Jul 2014 Posts: 1279 Location: Wales, UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Bertotti wrote: | The OP may or may not be able ti try ahead if time. Where I live it was a gamble, there is nothing like a Kronos where I live to try same with the Arp, Minitaur, Minilogue. Features and wants and need lists are great but sometimes it is a leap of faith. |
I hear you. It was a six hour round trip for me to try one. _________________ Derek Cook - Java Developer
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Derek Cook Approved Merchant
Joined: 20 Jul 2014 Posts: 1279 Location: Wales, UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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GregC wrote: | Derek Cook wrote: |
I agree with some of the points above that there are probably better one trick ponies if you only wish to one trick, but if you want a versatile all rounder as a standalone instrument, then I still think the Kronos is hard to beat. |
Thats mostly how I analyze.
Its to easy to pick apart a 6 yr old complex W/s and say ' this software or module is easier' than this Kronos feature or ' this software is better to record on ' than the SEQ.
The picky approach seems to avoid the bigger picture- you have to pile up 5-10 different current products to match the important feature list of the Kronos.
Then a person has to invest a bunch of time to learn and make those 5-10 current products play nice together.
Nothing wrong with trying to bundle a bunch of current and very strong products together with a midi keyboard. its a custom approach.
Personally, I don't chase every new product. I spend my time learning new music , creating covers/originals.
On the Kronos. Seems to get the job done and then some. |
I agree.
What drew me to the Kronos is that I wanted another "deep instrument" to keep me interested for a long time (like my Yamaha EX5 did). I wanted a multi synthesis engine that was best of breed and covered Piano, Organ, synth, electric piano - and I much prefer instruments that take a modelling approach (think AN1x and VL70m and EX5 FDSP). So a nine engine synth got my attention, and it is then you look at how it has been designed for live use that really hooked me - features such as set list and smooth sound transition. The sequencer is fine for me. I have used it in a duo for backing tracks (made up in Cubase).
And features like KARMA and wave sequencing in HD-1 are of interest to me to noodle about in an ambient manner.
There is only one keyboard I know of that fits that bill.
So it is a brilliant all-rounder that saves me having to carry loads of instruments about, it sounds great and will keep me busy for a long time. _________________ Derek Cook - Java Developer
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DrKewel Junior Member
Joined: 27 Nov 2013 Posts: 64
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:12 am Post subject: but it sounds fantastic |
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No one so far has mentioned how truly wonderful the sounds from the Kronos really are.
Yes, it is expensive
Yes, it takes a long time to learn and the operating system takes getting used to.
Yes, trying to teach oneself to play piano is hard, because it is so easy to get distracted.
Yes, it is hard to find things you want to do quickly. (today I wanted a simple hand clap to sequence. Still haven't found it)
It seems more of a computer than an instrument sometimes, and the inspiration to play gets lost in the complexity and deepness of the machine.
But once you get what you need, nothing sounds better. |
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