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laandodeman Senior Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:31 am Post subject: Stop Kronos transposing external keyboard unintentionally! |
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When browsing through my setlist, my Kronos sometimes transposes my external keyboard while I don't want that. The external board is connected through the Kronos midi out.
It has nothing to do with the transpose parameter in the setlist itself, because they all stand on zero. It must be somewhere in the combi's. And neither it's the pitch transpose in the timbre parameter in the combi; I checked them as well.
So I really can't find the parameter which does that. Any ideas? _________________ www.silhouetteband.nl |
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19naia Platinum Member
Joined: 29 Nov 2012 Posts: 1216
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Just a guess at what i would look for.
I would look to see if it were the Combis, which you already mentioned.
You also mentioned seeing it is not in the Timbre pitch settings.
Each timbre could also be zoned to higher or lower on the key range and that is a transposition in its own way. Particularly the timbres with midi channels set to same as your ext synth. Maybe even idle timbres interfering.
I have doubts about my idea here but it is what came to mind for if i was in the same situation. I recall a topic like this before but cannot remember the solution details. |
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Schmooster Full Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 239
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Karma GE's send transpose and split data. What are your Global settings and are both keyboards set to the same channel for Global changes? You can change transposition both globally and via the set list - the global midi page has a "position convert" setting with options for "pre midi" and "post midi" but it's not clear what these do - check the Karma GE's for transpose data - or set your Global settings to transmit system exclusive messages and control changes - I'm getting myself confused as I try to explain it. There are a number of places the message could be sent from; Global, Setlist and Karma GE - you need to experiment with the settings to find the exact one that's causing the change, but I'm not able to give you an in-depth explanation - look at the set list changes that cause it in more detail or reconfigure the information that is transmitted from setlist - it might be solvable at the receiving end more easily. |
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laandodeman Senior Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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SOLVED
Problem was that I switched combi with my foot pedal while using the pitch bend. While the Kronos joy stick automatically returns to its defaul position, it couldn't transmit the corresponding midi data after I switched.
Could this be addressed by the seamless transition in a next version? is that technically impossible? _________________ www.silhouetteband.nl |
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ronnfigg Platinum Member
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2141 Location: CA
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:34 am Post subject: |
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So you are using the external keyboard as a layer that is being triggered by the Kronos and you need the external keyboard to also respond to Kronos pitch bend information? _________________ "To me the synthesizer was always a source of new sounds that musicians could use to expand the range of possibilities for making music."
Bob Moog |
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laandodeman Senior Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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ronnfigg wrote: | So you are using the external keyboard as a layer that is being triggered by the Kronos and you need the external keyboard to also respond to Kronos pitch bend information? |
Yes. And that works OK, but not if you are in the middle of a pitchbend and then switch to the next combi _________________ www.silhouetteband.nl |
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ronnfigg Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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laandodeman wrote: | ronnfigg wrote: | So you are using the external keyboard as a layer that is being triggered by the Kronos and you need the external keyboard to also respond to Kronos pitch bend information? |
Yes. And that works OK, but not if you are in the middle of a pitchbend and then switch to the next combi |
I was going to recommend using a MIDI filter to filter out the pitch bend information. But obviously that won't work for your needs. _________________ "To me the synthesizer was always a source of new sounds that musicians could use to expand the range of possibilities for making music."
Bob Moog |
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