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AL-1 Polysix Editor Chrutil and Korg Kronos 2 Problem

 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:01 pm    Post subject: AL-1 Polysix Editor Chrutil and Korg Kronos 2 Problem Reply with quote

Hello,
I loaded the Editor written by "Chrutil" on the Kronoscopie site and despite the fact that the Communications menu of the prog display the correct knick names for input and output midi adresses, that doesn't work!
In response to the inquire message send by the Editor program something is going wrong. The following message appears at the bottom of window:
No Korg or Oasys detected.
Is this program ok for my Korg Kronos 2 ?
Something to know ?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The software might have been written for an older Kronos OS.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He calls for OS 2.0.2
See it here:

http://www.chrutil.com/kronos/
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it works fine with latest os and win 10
did you select the correct ports?
after selecting ports restart the app.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:54 pm    Post subject: AL-1 Editor malfunction Reply with quote

The midi ports are OK but the Editor doesn't recognize my Kronos 2.
It seems that this version of Kronos , that is 2, causes a problem of identification by the software !...
So I hope that it exists a simple solution to give me a fonctional editor !
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been using it on my kronos 2.
after setting up the ports restart the program
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's incredible but even if I launch the program twice, that is after having sawn that the ports adresses are correct the first inquire sended by the program display unrecognize Kronos or Oasys !
Something to put in the global menu of the Kronos ?
Something to switch on the control surface ?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you running it as admin?? in administrator mode
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Editor sofware runs under windows 10 on my PC Samsung desktop.
You say I have to run in admin mode !
It's not usual.
How can I know that and how to switch in admin mode if necessary ?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

right click and tell it to run as administrator,
on my system it automatically runs in admin mode.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd just try tu run in admin mode with a right click on the exe and by making the correct choice.
Unfortunately I have always the same problem!...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!
My apologies for not responding earlier, I don't come here that often anymore and must have missed this.
I haven't tried the editor in forever myself but just fired it up again and after setting both MIDI input and output devices to 'KRONOS' and the exiting and restarting the editor it seems to connect fine.
I'm running Windows 7 and OS 2.1.2 though.. guess it is time to update Smile

Is it still failing? (or have you given up?) If it is, (and you haven't) could you start the editor, then in the settings menu, check "Echo MIDI commands", and try restarting the editor?

You should see something like this:
Activating Engine: AL-1
Opening output.
MIDI Output device opened.
Opening input.
MIDI Input device opened.
SND: f0 7e 7f 6 1 f7 [Done]
RCV: (15 bytes) f0 7e 0 6 2 42 68 0 17 0 2 1 2 0 f7 [Done]
Bank select - not in program mode
Patch select - not in program mode
Korg Kronos, 88 key, OS: 2.1.2 detected.
SND: f0 42 30 68 12 f7 0 [Done]
Setting EXi 1
SND: f0 42 30 68 74 0 f7 [Done]
RCV: (11 bytes) f0 42 30 68 42 9 0 0 0 0 f7 [Done]
Mode Data: Set List
Currenly this program requires program mode to follow patch changes.
Checking for updates...
Current version is up to date.

Huh.. I just noticed that spelling error... Anyway, if you still get "No Kronos or Oasys detected", could you copy the
text that is printed out on startup after enabling the ? You might have to make the window bigger to see all text.

Thanks,
C
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does not work for me too.. Gives black screen with two buttons after connecting to Kronos.

http://screencast.com/t/Y2fHEfyiTWO

Before connecting shows knobs panel fine.

Win 8 64 bit, Core i7 cpu
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aziz1008 wrote:
Does not work for me too.. Gives black screen with two buttons after connecting to Kronos.

http://screencast.com/t/Y2fHEfyiTWO

Before connecting shows knobs panel fine.

Win 8 64 bit, Core i7 cpu


Hi! Thanks for the screenshot - makes things much easier to diagnose.
The problem here is that only the AL-1 and Polysix engines are implemented in this editor.
You seem to be looking at a program using the MS20Ex engine.
Try switching to a program that uses the AL-1 engine

Thanks,
C
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liviou2004 wrote:
Hello,

For the first time I'm trying this AL-1 Editor.
Same result as our friend : "No Kronos or Oasis detected".
I have a Kronos 2 with system 3.1.2. It is set on an AL-1 program, but no communication. (PCG Tools and Kronos Editor 3.1 are working well)
Second issue : I didn't find how to toggle between AL-1 and Polysix.

Do you have any idea to address this problem ?

Thank you.


Hi!
I'm not at home right now, but if I recall correctly first time you startup the editor you should:
1) Open the 'Communication' menu, Open 'MIDI Input Device', select your Kronos.
2) Open the 'Communication' menu, Open 'MIDI Output Device', select your Kronos.
3) Quit the editor
4) Start the editor again.

I will try to connect it up at home tonight to get you more exact steps.

Thanks,
C
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