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D575 Platinum Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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https://youtu.be/-54xmiyjUrY _________________ Korg PA5X-76 : Yamaha Montage M8x : Roland Jupiter 80 : Waldorf STVC : Roland Integra 7 : Waldorf Streichfett : Focal Trio6 ST6 : Studio Outboards/RME Audio Interface/A&H SQ Mixer : |
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Giner Platinum Member
Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 1347 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Hey, not too shabby. Thanks D575. _________________ When I nod my head . . . Hit it!
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Xx_Joey_xX Full Member
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 176 Location: Detroit USA
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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6 outputs !
That's amazing. Korg should have does this years ago.
Sample memory size 1.8 gig? nice. _________________ pLaY yOuR wAy tO tHe nExT lEveL |
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Fransman Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 1095 Location: Netherlands (PA4X61+PAas. Past: PA3X, PA800, Y PSR-S910, PA500, T KN1000, Y PSR-16)
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:51 am Post subject: |
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Great performance it is indeed & the Genos sounds awesome, no doubt about it!
At 4:17: this sounds a bit like one of the Korg Unplugged styles...
Check this out, to hear the PA4X in some pieces of great live performances:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPyLxjarSzw
Of course, Luke Edwards could make any keyboard sound amazing, he is so talented. _________________ Musical grtz, Frans
Play in style.
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karmathanever Platinum Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Such a huge shame - Yamaha just didn't come up with any kind of comparative keyboard.
I am seriously disappointed now.....
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D575 Platinum Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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karmathanever wrote: | Such a huge shame - Yamaha just didn't come up with any kind of comparative keyboard.
I am seriously disappointed now.....
| After Montage expectations where high for Genos but considering the very high price they are charging then we are only seeing small evolutionary changes and this make the PA4X in comparisons look like extremely good value for the money and that includes what is probably the best keybed out there before a weighted action and to think Yamaha forgot to put balanced outputs on Genos which is perplexing and PAC is now just a distant dream...so a very nice keyboard for many im sure...But not worth that very high Premium price they are asking in my Humble opinion ...i may change my mind after the official event which I will attend and perhaps some down time with Genos at a dealers next time I am passing..but for now the combination of keyboards I have inculding the PA4X as my master keyboard then Genos would seem to Not be the Dynamite that would move me away from the PA4X _________________ Korg PA5X-76 : Yamaha Montage M8x : Roland Jupiter 80 : Waldorf STVC : Roland Integra 7 : Waldorf Streichfett : Focal Trio6 ST6 : Studio Outboards/RME Audio Interface/A&H SQ Mixer : |
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karmathanever Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:05 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | After Montage expectations where high for Genos but considering the very high price they are charging then we are only seeing small evolutionary changes and this make the PA4X in comparisons look like extremely good value for the money and that includes what is probably the best keybed out there before a weighted action and to think Yamaha forgot to put balanced outputs on Genos which is perplexing and PAC is now just a distant dream...so a very nice keyboard for many im sure...But not worth that very high Premium price they are asking in my Humble opinion ...i may change my mind after the official event which I will attend and perhaps some down time with Genos at a dealers next time I am passing..but for now the combination of keyboards I have inculding the PA4X as my master keyboard then Genos would seem to Not be the Dynamite that would move me away from the PA4X |
Agree
We get the real thing locally in a couple of weeks so I am looking forward to actually getting to play it.
Even though some new owners are already threatening to sell up I still reserve my final views until actually playing and hearing it.
So far it really is just a Tyros 6 from all that I read, see and hear.
You are absolutely correct, for some it will be a very nice keyboard
Pete _________________ PA4X-76, Karma, WaveDrum GE, Fantom 8 EX
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karmathanever Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:01 am Post subject: |
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THIS IS AN INTERESTING READ:-
https://app.box.com/s/t5xs73v2ii1acdfndflal9uegqw4il6e
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wma Full Member
Joined: 17 Feb 2013 Posts: 127
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Fransman Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 1095 Location: Netherlands (PA4X61+PAas. Past: PA3X, PA800, Y PSR-S910, PA500, T KN1000, Y PSR-16)
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:50 am Post subject: |
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In the Netherlands, the second hand market is being flooded with Tyrosses at the moment.
Most certainly a lot of players willing to switch to Genos.... _________________ Musical grtz, Frans
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Bachus Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 3127
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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wma wrote: | https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/genos/downloads.html
datalist available |
Not just the data list, also the reference manual is online
Seems all the new things on the Genos are done in the typical Yamaha way, with a huge amount of restrictions..
-There is only a small amount of things that can be assigned to the assignable buttons, knobs, ans sliders..
-The screen, while huge is capacitive, taking away much of the beauty.
-The knobs are not encoders but normal pots
-There is no place to store user arpeggio's. You can not even save an arp you edited in a performance memory
But there is one thing really sensational, and that is the dsp structure, while at first it looks like there is one single insert effect/ track, its much more flexible, you can assign up to 19 DSP's to a single keyboard voice.. which is huge.. Sadly you can not assign any of the DSP parameters to the sliders and knobs for real time edditing.
But in the end, i think this single one DSP feature is what will make the Yamaha a beast on stage, also wanted by many keyboard players in bands. _________________ Korg Kronos 2/88 , Genos, Mainstage3 +VSTsu, ipad pro, GSi Gemini, Roland Integra 7, Jupiter Xm, Yamaha motif XS rack, Ketron SD90.
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Jeremy Bender Full Member
Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 111 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:55 am Post subject: |
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The link doesn't seem to lead to anywhere I can see the data list or reference manual... _________________ Korg Kronos 88, Korg M3 61 with Radias EXP, DSI Prophet 6,Moog Voyager, Korg MS-20 kit, Korg Wavestation SR, Korg M3R, Korg Legacy Collection, Roland JV1080, Roland D10, EDP Wasp, Roland TR606 Drumatix, Ableton Live, Ableton Push |
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Bachus Platinum Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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I was at the first Genos demo in the Netherlands yesterday
You can find my little impression here..
http://keyszone.boards.net/thread/486/live-demo-genos-zwolle
Conclusion, the Genos sounds quite a lot better then the tyros 5
It seems Yamaha was able to catch the essence of the different music styles
And all give them a different stage to shine..
The arranger part of the Genos convinced me..
Yet the advanced workstation part, is non excistant _________________ Korg Kronos 2/88 , Genos, Mainstage3 +VSTsu, ipad pro, GSi Gemini, Roland Integra 7, Jupiter Xm, Yamaha motif XS rack, Ketron SD90.
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Mr_SamDoogie Full Member
Joined: 01 Jan 2014 Posts: 239 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Bachus wrote: | I was at the first Genos demo in the Netherlands yesterday
You can find my little impression here..
http://keyszone.boards.net/thread/486/live-demo-genos-zwolle
Conclusion, the Genos sounds quite a lot better then the tyros 5
It seems Yamaha was able to catch the essence of the different music styles
And all give them a different stage to shine..
The arranger part of the Genos convinced me..
Yet the advanced workstation part, is non excistant |
I saw the live youtube feed and indeed the arranger part did convince but nothing showed as proof to why it's called a workstation. _________________ In honor of the Groove and to all whom surrender to it, We say Thank You. And we take it Back.
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