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Xenophile Senior Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2017 Posts: 349
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:09 pm Post subject: How do you search for drum patterns? |
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I'll be playing some small, sort of coffee-house gigs with my regular band, but without a drummer. I'm programming up a Combi for each song, and would like to add a basic drum track to each one. But with the hundreds (thousands?) of pre-programmed patterns in the Kronos, it's difficult/time-consuming to search for a pattern that works. I would imagine that some of you have faced a similar problem.
I click to open up the menu of patterns, and scroll for a likely candidate by name (but the names aren't always particularly helpful). But if I click on one in the menu, that pattern is selected and the menu closes. It seems the only way to keep the menu open is to click the increment/decrement buttons to step through the patterns one at a time. Then I end up step, step, stepping through a bunch of inappropriate patterns (often losing the groove I had in my head) until I find something suitable.
What if the bandleader says, "Find me a groove for 'Sittin On the Dock of the Bay' or 'Let's Stay Together'?" How would you do that quickly? |
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Mike Conway Approved Merchant
Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 2433 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: How do you search for drum patterns? |
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Xenophile wrote: |
if I click on one in the menu, that pattern is selected and the menu closes |
There is a SAFETY PIN icon (upper left). Tap it closed and the window will stay open. Tap it open and the window can be closed. |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: How do you search for drum patterns? |
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Xenophile wrote: | I'll be playing some small, sort of coffee-house gigs with my regular band, but without a drummer. I'm programming up a Combi for each song, and would like to add a basic drum track to each one. But with the hundreds (thousands?) of pre-programmed patterns in the Kronos, it's difficult/time-consuming to search for a pattern that works. I would imagine that some of you have faced a similar problem.
I click to open up the menu of patterns, and scroll for a likely candidate by name (but the names aren't always particularly helpful). But if I click on one in the menu, that pattern is selected and the menu closes. It seems the only way to keep the menu open is to click the increment/decrement buttons to step through the patterns one at a time. Then I end up step, step, stepping through a bunch of inappropriate patterns (often losing the groove I had in my head) until I find something suitable.
What if the bandleader says, "Find me a groove for 'Sittin On the Dock of the Bay' or 'Let's Stay Together'?" How would you do that quickly? |
we have 2 things to play with.
Drum tracks(DT) and Karma drums
I agree with you and have had the same fumbling around experience.
The DT has slightly descriptive title such as Pop this/that , rock, jazz, and so on.
The Pop and Rock DT's typical 4 bar stuff, you can get by on.
Thats not much to go on plus you have to work on tempo and assign a drum kit.
DT suggests a kit, from what I recall.
Sometimes I have a specific idea like ambient drum kits.
Karma drums are more useful in that there is much more variation . Again, finding a 'match ' for a particular song is time consuming.
Other folks are content to tap out their own drum pattern. I have done that on occasion but often DT is better for tempo/time.
As you can tell, its a challenge for me. Looking forward to what other owners say. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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Xenophile Senior Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks! That will help. Maybe I missed it... But is there no way to search through drum patterns by entering text? For example "6/8" Maybe there's a magnifying glass or binoculars icon I'm ignoring. |
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Mike Conway Approved Merchant
Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 2433 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Xenophile wrote: | But is there no way to search through drum patterns by entering text? For example "6/8" |
No, but selecting Drum program and clicking on the KARMA tab, you can select a KARMA drum pattern and change its Time Signature to 6/8 or whatever you see here.
This is different than DRUM KIT. There are Drum Kit patterns and there are KARMA drum patterns. I suggest you take a day or two and just go through all the patterns. Note the ones you can use.
There's no shortcut to getting to know the Kronos. I have personally gone through every multisample and most drum samples, of every ROM, EXs factory bank, and new library, so that I know what raw resource material is available.
You should do this with KARMA and DRUM KIT patterns. |
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Xenophile Senior Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks! Lots to learn. I've only had the Kronos for 2 weeks, and haven't really touched Karma, other than to implement a trick I learned from a post here to get Damper and Expression pedal controllers to work on timbres being played by both the Kronos keyboard and an external midi/usb keyboard. That is a critical function for me. I'm not sure how much it might limit other things I might want to do with Karma. |
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